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BabyKitten26 · Today 18:32

So sad, awful situation that could happen to anyone
Thinking of the parents and whole family

Anarchy99 · Today 18:32

IkeaJesusChrist · Today 18:21

I wonder what the usual suspects who were pointing fingers at local migrants will do now.

Presumably they are not certain what happened yet?

IceCreamCone543 · Today 18:37

Oh no... I saw a video earlier of the water and had a horrible feeling that this would be the case. So very, very sad. The poor family... I cannot begin to imagine the pain they will be experiencing. I feel so very sorry for the Grandfather... I hope they all have proper support surrounding them. I suppose at least it hasn't dragged on with them in limbo for days and days... not meaning that to come across badly at all. This is such a horrendous situation

bababamama · Today 18:37

Rest in peace little one

Pixie2015 · Today 18:40

Devastating news - have been thinking of Noah’s family and friends all day x

GrandTheftWalrus · Today 18:42

Such a sad outcome.

RIP little one x

hotmumshit · Today 18:42

Have seen the update, my heart is broken.

Heymuggy · Today 18:43

I'm so sorry little Noah and his family.
I have a 3 year old who is a runner, he's so fast and does not stop when I call him back. So I can completely understand how this can happen. It's just awful that there was a lake so close to where he ran off. 😭

cloudbabies · Today 18:43

CrazyMidget · Today 18:28

I have a question. Not just for you, but for commenters who tell others that they mustn't say various things and also for posters who call for threads like this one to be taken down. An example is a poster who said they hoped the family member had nothing to do with it. I said that that had crossed my mind too. (The reason I wrote that is because it's not uncommon for the family member to be the culprit.)

On many threads on the internet in general, there are people who object when posters are discussing a case like this. I'm curious to know what the motivation is for telling people they shouldn't say xyz or that the thread should be taken down.

Is it because some people think a thread like this should only be for well wishes?

And/or is it because they are afraid the family will see the thread?

I tend to operate under the assumption that the family is never going to see this thread. And also that no one is forced to read it.

But perhaps internet threads about criminal cases should be limited to well wishes and no discussion about what could be going on. I'm not talking about Mumsnet specifically, just the internet in general.

Of course it’s because the family may come across it. It’s called respect.

Nicknackpaddywack16 · Today 18:45

Heartbroken for Noah and his family.

Summer26woohoo · Today 18:45

It was always the most likely outcome but it's such a shame. I'm glad his family will have closure though because that's never a certainty if a child is missing. Rip little one.

chapter26again · Today 18:47

I’ve just seen the news. Utterly tragic, the poor little boy and his family.

inpraying · Today 18:50

Poor little boy, RIP angel

Staffygirl · Today 18:51

Could someone answer a genuine question?
I know what non verbal means, but is it a case a child doesn't want to speak or are they not able to?
I'd appreciate any info

Tiddlywinks63 · Today 18:51

So, so sad. Poor little boy 😢

IkeaJesusChrist · Today 18:56

Anarchy99 · Today 18:32

Presumably they are not certain what happened yet?

I think it's pretty obvious to most of us, he certainly wasn't put in the water by a migrant.

Newsenmum · Today 18:56

This has seriously upset me

Newsenmum · Today 18:57

Staffygirl · Today 18:51

Could someone answer a genuine question?
I know what non verbal means, but is it a case a child doesn't want to speak or are they not able to?
I'd appreciate any info

Can be either and can be hard to tell. Some physically can’t make the sounds, others have never know/understood to try as obviously wired very differently and some can physically talk but do not engage with others.

MakingLasagne · Today 18:58

My heart is breaking. I have an ND runner and I know it could happen to any of us. Hold your babies close tonight.

OffWith · Today 19:00

Staffygirl · Today 18:51

Could someone answer a genuine question?
I know what non verbal means, but is it a case a child doesn't want to speak or are they not able to?
I'd appreciate any info

My son was completely non verbal until the age of 6. No attempts to talk at all.

Suddenly one day he and his sister started communicating in jargon, and as she grew older, she actually translated for him.

Around the age of 8 he then started sounding like he had swallowed a thesaurus.

He was diagnosed with autism at 3, and had intensive speech and language therapy/makaton starting even before that. But it's like he just woke up with the ability to speak one day.

Newsenmum · Today 19:02

It makes me angry that things like this happen in our world. Just heartbroken.

Spidey66 · Today 19:05

Poor child and his family. RIP Noah xxx

GoldieLocks09 · Today 19:11

Absolutely heartbreaking, I can’t even begin to imagine how the family, particularly the grandfather is feeling.. just an awful outcome that felt inevitable but everybody hoped was wrong.

tommyhoundmum · Today 19:19

Found dead. Poor child.

Umleitung · Today 19:21

Staffygirl · Today 18:51

Could someone answer a genuine question?
I know what non verbal means, but is it a case a child doesn't want to speak or are they not able to?
I'd appreciate any info

The terminology is much argued over, but non verbal is usually used to mean without language. Non speaking can mean the individual uses alternative verbal communication like signing or a communication device.

People misuse terms especially now there are so many self diagnosed social media influencers posting long, articulate reels in which they talk about " going non verbal" - which is not actually being "non verbal" but is selective mutism. Obviously the word selective is itself misleading - nobody is deliberately choosing to be unable to speak but it's an involuntary response to a situation or setting. So people want to use the term "non verbal" incorrectly because their selective mutism is misunderstood...

A three year old autistic child who elopes towards water and has no sense of danger and is described as non verbal probably is genuinely non verbal - not able to produce verbal communication even if they have some understanding of spoken language (which not everyone does).

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