Thread 5 Burnham: Be More Dolly (Title edited by MNHQ at the request of the OP)

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DS had just started nursery school for an hour a day and I’d taken the day off work. Picked him up and got home when DH phoned to say a plane had hit the first tower. I thought it was a small tourist plane initially. I parked DS in front of a Postman Pat video and watched in the kitchen on a tiny portable as things unfolded. I was worried about a friend who was flying to Boston that day but she was one of the people diverted to Gander.

It’s not an easy read but The Only Plane In The Sky is an excellent book on the subject.

I had just arrived the day before, into Toronto, where I was going to be for the next week conducting research (into chocolate, fyi!).

My mum, at the same time, was visiting family in Eastern Canada, so we were both 'stranded' as it were.

Not surprisingly, my work was cancelled - nobody wanted to come to a focus group to talk about chocolate - and I was left to try and work out how and when I was going to get home.

We were evacuated from the offices I was working in and then, when I got back to my hotel eventually, we had a fire alarm and had to exit the hotel - via its North and South towers, which was unsettling to say the least.

I think I managed to get on one of the first flights out of Canada at the end of the week. Back to DH, who had had a pretty tough time trying to explain what had happened to our 9 and 6 year olds.

I remember that I was at work when it happened. My employer was told about it by her partner, who had called her, and she told me, she was obviously very shocked. It didn’t sink in how bad it was until I got home after work and watched the news.

I was living in a very rural area at the time, about three miles from where the children were at school, my youngest was 4 and having his first full afternoon at Reception as part of settling in. DH was on the computer (he was an IT project manager so we had a PC and internet albeit dial up) my nephew was at work in London and sent a message on Messenger telling him a plane had hit the WTC and to put the television on. We put Sky News on and saw the second plane hit, and simply couldn’t believe what we were seeing. My DM was working as a district nurse at the time and also saw it on a patient’s television, she asked what he was watching assuming it was a disaster movie.

I couldn’t stop crying and DH had to talk me down from going to fetch the children early, I just wanted to have them with me. After school they were playing in the garden, it was a beautiful sunny afternoon and I kept thinking of all those people who had got up that morning and the horror that descended on them from that clear blue sky. I think the horror was too much to take in, I was trying to convey to a younger friend, who was only 3 on 9/11 the other day how fears that we would never have imagined became part of our lives after that day. Those have only been compounded by other horrors like 7/7 and the Manchester Arena bombing. We know now that terrible things can happen without us being at war.

You really couldn’t make it up.

I can't explain why but the drone show made me feel a bit, odd. It's one thing remembering the people but simulating the buildings where so many died...felt...tasteless? I hope they didn't actually recreate them being hit/falling?

Also enjoying the stubborn growth in the face of all the naysaying "economists" repeatedly telling us that any day now we will be worse off than we were under Tories.

Brings it all back doesn’t it, when an anniversary is more marked than usual. The sheer horror of seeing the towers & the other targets the bravery of so many people the inhumanity & the tragedy of so many lives lost or changed forever.

I always remember the next step being "Shock and Awe" which similarly disgusted me. It made way for the politics of today, certainly, but we still don't seem to learn from these atrocities.

Also enjoying the stubborn growth in the face of all the naysaying "economists" repeatedly telling us that any day now we will be worse off than we were under Tories

There is a huge economic crash coming according to a poster on one of the anti-Burnham threads, but they aren't saying how and when or where they are getting this intel from. Tbf they are not saying it will because of Labour but will be a world wide thing.

I think this was the display Jane mentioned, it isn't a show as such.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cx2z7x57gjeo
According to organisers, 2,977 drones recreated the Twin Towers at full scale with each light representing a victim of the 9/11 attacks. The artwork, titled "2,977 Lights Over New York Harbor", is a commemorative public art installation in collaboration with artists, producers, and members of the 9/11 community, including victims' families, survivors, and first responders.

It's sobering to think that the passage of time is such that I was born sort of 25 years after Pearl Harbour, and we are now at 25 years after 9/11.

It's my birthday as I may have mentioned last year . It's hard having a birthday simultaneous to all your American relatives posting 9/11 things.

It's also my NY aunt's wedding anniversary.

My uncle (not her DH) owns the carpentry firm that did the interiors of all the lifts.

To be fair, that isn't out of the picture. We have:

1. A probable AI bubble and huge amounts of debt being passed around
2. Rising bond rates not just for America but for most governments. Partly because so much money is being diverted to AI, partly becausenif changes to company pensions which are eroding the main bond market
3. Japanese Yen doing strange things
4. Rising inflation
5. Massive and ever growing oil crisis thanks to Trump
6. An idiot in charge of the most powerful economy in the world
7. Youth unemployment in many countries
8. El Nino

I don't think that we are all necessarily dooooomed. But I think it's reasonable to expect a bit of trouble ahead. Most of the issues are outside Labours control though so it's more a case of if we aren't badly affected its to Labours credit rather than Labours fault if the economy slows.

Thank you for this. I don't know why the other poster wouldn't explain. It is so annoying when people "vague post".

Happy birthday @Piggywaspushed hope you’ve had a lovely day🎂

Weeelll..... 5 lessons teaching may -or may not- be lovely.

Hope you have managed to enjoy your birthday @Piggywaspushed 💐

Ahh tiring if nothing else, hope you do something lovely this evening or over the weekend.

Happy birthday @Piggywaspushed

Oh dear God. I loved teaching (but not always ‘being a teacher’) but 5 on your birthday is a lot. I’m a proper teacher’s child and my birthday is usually in October half term. One year when I worked in boarding it was the first day back…responsible for kids from 7.15 wake up, then breakfast, teaching all day, Co-curriculum! Prep supervision and being on call all evening and overnight. Nightmare all round.
Edit: was so triggered I forgot to say Happy Birthday! 🎉

That sounds a fun birthday!

Note: irony.

Happy birthday @Piggywaspushed! You share your birthday with one of my best friends, and also my great niece who turns 6 today!

And my DH, annoyingly...