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Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 09:14

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ThingsAreNotWhatTheyWere · 24/07/2026 17:01

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 16:20

Edited

Brilliant!

itsgettingweird · 24/07/2026 17:02

Llttledrummergirl · 24/07/2026 13:27

I've said before, I'm a swing voter, I will look at who is offering the most in line with what I would do. I didn't agree with everything Starmer did, but I could see the quiet gains his government were making. They appeared to have a direction of travel even if it was slow.

I see that the MPs became impatient, a lot were fairly new and susceptible to polls and negative media coverage and panicked. Burnham stepped into the gap. That he was voted in by most of the labour parliamentary party gives me cult vibes, in my experience, nobody is that popular.

I really hope I'm wrong and the upheaval is worth it, I want the government and country to do well. The proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.

In contrast to Blossom feeling hope, I feel as though it has been ripped away and replaced with uncertainty. I need to see his road map.

I concur with a lot of this.

I really do hope Burnham is the one to turn it around as I hoped the same with Sunak and Starmer.

I actually liked Starmer and thought he did a lot of good but know he wasn’t left enough for Labour voters in general.

I wish he’d continued this term and if Burnham and LP wanted Burnham it was done at next GE but we are where we are and as long as I don’t get poorer and the disabled stop being battered I’ll take what it is for what it is.

PickAChew · 24/07/2026 17:03

Love his parting shot 😂

LizzieW1969 · 24/07/2026 17:04

He really is quite something! Yes please, let’s have him on LK, or Question Time when it’s back on.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 17:04

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:01

Get that man on the political talk shows right now. He’d make mincemeat of Laura Kuenssberg, for a start.

Replace LK with him. He’s amazing. I hope I’m half as sharp as him if I reach 94.

Certainly an antidote to the lazy "old folk are racists reformers" trope that Reform themselves lean into.

94 ... which means from the time of fascism war and defiance. Part of the generation we had to lose to enable cunts like Farage and his lickspittle canvasser who was born well after the Spitfire was retired. Unlike his target who would have seen them fly over. Very much for real.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:09

Born 1932 so he was a child during the depression and the war and saw the transformation of the country under the Attlee government as he moved into adulthood. Small wonder he has no time for Nigel.

dapsnotplimsolls · 24/07/2026 17:10

Binface needs to get him on his campaign trail.

itsgettingweird · 24/07/2026 17:13

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 16:20

Edited

That’s the best thing I’ve watched for ages 🤣

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:14

dapsnotplimsolls · 24/07/2026 17:10

Binface needs to get him on his campaign trail.

Oh yes please.

placemats · 24/07/2026 17:31

My mum was 92 when she voted Remain and had been left leaning all her adult life.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:49

Archive version. Wait for the cries of “It’s not faaaaaaair” despite it only affecting pensioners whose only income is their state pension.

https://archive.ph/KNx43

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 17:54

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:49

Archive version. Wait for the cries of “It’s not faaaaaaair” despite it only affecting pensioners whose only income is their state pension.

https://archive.ph/KNx43

It a genius move. Free headlines that will make old people feel happy at less cost than a TV licence.

It's looking like team Burnham have not been idle.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:56

Enjoy.

Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.
Efacsen · 24/07/2026 18:03

Think this is new - not been following closely

Reform councillors told to call donations inquiry ‘establishment stitch-up’

Party briefing notes say: ‘Daily routine of hit jobs and smears will not deter us from winning next general election’

Reform councillors told to call donations inquiry ‘establishment stitch-up’ | Reform UK | The Guardian

placemats · 24/07/2026 20:13

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:56

Enjoy.

Ooppsie daisy 😂

placemats · 24/07/2026 20:19

Efacsen · 24/07/2026 18:03

Think this is new - not been following closely

Reform councillors told to call donations inquiry ‘establishment stitch-up’

Party briefing notes say: ‘Daily routine of hit jobs and smears will not deter us from winning next general election’

Reform councillors told to call donations inquiry ‘establishment stitch-up’ | Reform UK | The Guardian

Reform think people are stupid and why wouldn't they if those people vote for them. Win win!

cardibach · 24/07/2026 21:02

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 17:54

It a genius move. Free headlines that will make old people feel happy at less cost than a TV licence.

It's looking like team Burnham have not been idle.

More genius sould be to raise the tax threshold. Benefits everyone and doesn’t allow for all the “boomer” crap.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 21:08

cardibach · 24/07/2026 21:02

More genius sould be to raise the tax threshold. Benefits everyone and doesn’t allow for all the “boomer” crap.

But that would actually cost something

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 21:25

cardibach · 24/07/2026 21:02

More genius sould be to raise the tax threshold. Benefits everyone and doesn’t allow for all the “boomer” crap.

It would be unaffordable and this minimises the boomer crap, no “my parents are trillionaires with 96 houses and three yachts” nonsense with this.

cardibach · 24/07/2026 21:36

It’s not unaffordable. Just nobody has the will to do what’s necessary to make it affordable.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 22:15

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This reply has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 22:16

No idea why that’s been hidden. It had a link to an article by Dan Neidle advocating a cut in NI rather than tax changes.