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Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 09:14

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ThingsAreNotWhatTheyWere · 24/07/2026 13:50

PickAChew · 24/07/2026 13:27

I think benefits and pensions are on this week's task list.

Yes, we seem to flim-flam between the two...

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 13:50

Notonthestairs · 24/07/2026 12:58

It's bloody nonsense to suggest posters here are treating him like the Messiah.
He's received a fairly critical & cautious welcome over the last few weeks.
He's got a bump in polling. We'll wait to see what happens next.
Don't mischaracterise posts.

I'm already less than impressed with the whole US bombing business. Especially in the absence of a clear statement about where our Prime Minister thinks the UK needs to be in relation to a completely dysfunctional US.

I've already emailed my (Labour) MP. Or rather passively aggressively forwarded the previous email I sent when Starmer was PM. I imagine in a few weeks time I will receive a(nother) posted letter on HoC paper (100gsm, coloured and headed) blathering on about "UKs best interests".

No fanbois here.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 13:50

Flabbergasted. I love that word.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 13:55

TemperanceWest · 24/07/2026 13:15

Farage seems a little spooked by Burnham as do others on the right. I think they are scared he might actually have a chance of turning things around.

Well if we want to talk about messiahs. then how long have the press hailed Farage as the new messiah of UK politics ? It's teh work of a moment to flick through the archives and see how the Farage fanbois responded when they were accused of having a messiah, and redirect that "back atcha", as the vernacular goes.

We also need to recall the Python perspective, which hour by hour seems more appropriate to the messiah Farage is turning out to be. And I should know, I've followed a few .....

placemats · 24/07/2026 14:03

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2026 13:35

Oh look, these were the ones answering Farage's pure cold rage call

Most people arrested during Henry Nowak protests had been reported for domestic abuse

Exclusive: Hampshire police data reveals 22 of 37 detained had been accused or convicted of intimate partner violence

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/24/most-people-arrested-during-henry-nowak-protests-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?

When I saw them 'protesting', my first thought was imagine living with them? Awful.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 14:05

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 13:20

We haven’t heard much from Farage lately, have we? Which is odd for someone seeking reelection. I’m sure it’s coincidental but the number of anti immigrant threads/posts here has fallen at the same time. Very strange.

Edited

He is giving grown up press (such as it is) a wide berth. He is on transmit only at the moment. And will remain so until 14th August.

Whether you can win a by election this way remains to be seen. Much as we are amusing ourselves with Farages folly, don't overlook the optics if he can win an election with fuck all scrutiny. That is a dictators wet dream.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 14:06

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2026 13:27

Farage has been instructing his party members to spin the 'witch hunt' 'hit job' line regarding his finances.

Both the FT and Bylines Times ran stories on Cottrell again the last few days.

FT is reporting Cottrell was moving money from unknown sources to unknown destinations.

LizzieW1969 · 24/07/2026 14:08

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2026 13:35

Oh look, these were the ones answering Farage's pure cold rage call

Most people arrested during Henry Nowak protests had been reported for domestic abuse

Exclusive: Hampshire police data reveals 22 of 37 detained had been accused or convicted of intimate partner violence

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/24/most-people-arrested-during-henry-nowak-protests-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?

Well, what a surprise, not. Completely typical.

PickAChew · 24/07/2026 14:10

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 13:50

Flabbergasted. I love that word.

My gast has been well and truly flabbered to bits, recently

Notonthestairs · 24/07/2026 14:49

You can see why Reform want to lower taxes on crapto. A boon for money launderers everywhere.

A betting account in the name of George Cottrell, the convicted fraudster who bankrolled Nigel Farage, received almost $9mn in cryptocurrency from unidentified sources while he was providing gifts to the Reform UK leader

great work from @annasophiegross.bsky.social

www.ft.com/content/b74
https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mrckcfsms22o

Jim Pickard (@pickardje.bsky.social)

A betting account in the name of George Cottrell, the convicted fraudster who bankrolled Nigel Farage, received almost $9mn in cryptocurrency from unidentified sources while he was providing gifts to the Reform UK leader great work from @annasophiegro...

https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mrckcfsms22o

Persephonia1966 · 24/07/2026 14:57

Notonthestairs · 24/07/2026 14:49

You can see why Reform want to lower taxes on crapto. A boon for money launderers everywhere.

A betting account in the name of George Cottrell, the convicted fraudster who bankrolled Nigel Farage, received almost $9mn in cryptocurrency from unidentified sources while he was providing gifts to the Reform UK leader

great work from @annasophiegross.bsky.social

www.ft.com/content/b74
https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mrckcfsms22o

If they made money laundering completely legal it would solve the issue of money laundering barbers on the high street....

Notonthestairs · 24/07/2026 14:59

yes, maybe their real aim is to clean up the High Street!

placemats · 24/07/2026 15:18

Persephonia1966 · 24/07/2026 14:57

If they made money laundering completely legal it would solve the issue of money laundering barbers on the high street....

In the same way as declassifying all drugs would make something, something, disappear?

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 15:39

placemats · 24/07/2026 15:18

In the same way as declassifying all drugs would make something, something, disappear?

If nothing is illegal, then the need for money laundering goes away

placemats · 24/07/2026 15:49

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 15:39

If nothing is illegal, then the need for money laundering goes away

Even tax evasion?

Persephonia1966 · 24/07/2026 16:00

placemats · 24/07/2026 15:49

Even tax evasion?

Well clearly it's pointless taxing people because otherwise they will just evade taxes. Thats already been done and dusted.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2026 16:20

placemats · 24/07/2026 15:49

Even tax evasion?

That's beyond my paygrade. When you eliminate the rule of law, you are left with the rule of the jungle ...

BIWI · 24/07/2026 16:43

That's brilliant Grin

TemperanceWest · 24/07/2026 16:46

That was bloody wonderful.

dapsnotplimsolls · 24/07/2026 16:47

They need to get him on Newsnight 😀

pointythings · 24/07/2026 16:56

He's fabulous. Razorsharp. Shot every Reform argument down in flames.

placemats · 24/07/2026 17:01

Love it! 😀

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2026 17:01

Get that man on the political talk shows right now. He’d make mincemeat of Laura Kuenssberg, for a start.

Replace LK with him. He’s amazing. I hope I’m half as sharp as him if I reach 94.