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Thread 1 Burnham: Esperanza en cada Corazón

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DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 12:45

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BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 17:50

Shame all the benefit bashers aren’t bothered by all the unpaid tax.

Saucery · 21/07/2026 17:51

Oh, I found something, but not the pie chart. 2025 - overpayment due to fraudulent claims = 2.2%. Down from 2.7% the year before.
2.2% could be better, of course, but hardly an example of disability benefits needing an ‘axe’ (what a curiously….violent image, my goodness) taking to them.

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 17:51

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 17:50

Shame all the benefit bashers aren’t bothered by all the unpaid tax.

Even the ones that can read struggle with numbers.

The undim will notice that unclaimed benefits far exceeds the fraud too.

Saucery · 21/07/2026 17:52

Thank you @SerendipityJane !

placemats · 21/07/2026 17:53

Most of the benefits that go unclaimed are pension credits and carers allowance. Re pension credits people either don't understand the process or are too ashamed to ask for it. Carers allowance, because people are afraid they have to repay thousands back.

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 17:54

placemats · 21/07/2026 17:53

Most of the benefits that go unclaimed are pension credits and carers allowance. Re pension credits people either don't understand the process or are too ashamed to ask for it. Carers allowance, because people are afraid they have to repay thousands back.

Which then has a knock on effect with NI credits for a pension.

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 17:55

placemats · 21/07/2026 17:53

Most of the benefits that go unclaimed are pension credits and carers allowance. Re pension credits people either don't understand the process or are too ashamed to ask for it. Carers allowance, because people are afraid they have to repay thousands back.

The complexity of the pension credit claim form doesn’t help. Nor does the stigma created by those earning £100k+ who think they’re treated so badly and are so much more deserving.

placemats · 21/07/2026 17:57

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 17:54

Which then has a knock on effect with NI credits for a pension.

Quite. It's a vicious circle.

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:00

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 17:55

The complexity of the pension credit claim form doesn’t help. Nor does the stigma created by those earning £100k+ who think they’re treated so badly and are so much more deserving.

"AI" is quite good at some guidance through the system.

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:02

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:00

"AI" is quite good at some guidance through the system.

Which is spectacularly unhelpful to the tech illiterate who will be over represented in potential pension credit claimants.

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:06

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:02

Which is spectacularly unhelpful to the tech illiterate who will be over represented in potential pension credit claimants.

Which doesn't obviate the fact that it can help someone helping someone in a way that wasn't possible even 5 years ago.

TemperanceWest · 21/07/2026 18:08

I think I know who our newest friend is.

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:09

TemperanceWest · 21/07/2026 18:08

I think I know who our newest friend is.

I’ve got a fair idea too.

placemats · 21/07/2026 18:09

The problem with getting help from a friend or a family member re pension credits is an admission that you don't have much money to live on, and people can be incredibly embarrassed about that, so prefer not to keep the heating on in winter and will eat less.

placemats · 21/07/2026 18:12

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:09

I’ve got a fair idea too.

Thomasina ten names?

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:13

placemats · 21/07/2026 18:09

The problem with getting help from a friend or a family member re pension credits is an admission that you don't have much money to live on, and people can be incredibly embarrassed about that, so prefer not to keep the heating on in winter and will eat less.

Exactly.

countrygirl99 · 21/07/2026 18:13

Capferrat · 21/07/2026 16:22

Agree with you - our relationship with the US will endure beyond Trump.

I'd change that to recover post Trump

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:14

placemats · 21/07/2026 18:09

The problem with getting help from a friend or a family member re pension credits is an admission that you don't have much money to live on, and people can be incredibly embarrassed about that, so prefer not to keep the heating on in winter and will eat less.

There is a saying about leading a horse to water.

How would you address the issue ?

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:16

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:14

There is a saying about leading a horse to water.

How would you address the issue ?

Simplify the forms.

TemperanceWest · 21/07/2026 18:16

placemats · 21/07/2026 18:09

The problem with getting help from a friend or a family member re pension credits is an admission that you don't have much money to live on, and people can be incredibly embarrassed about that, so prefer not to keep the heating on in winter and will eat less.

This is so true. Millions of pounds worth of PC goes unclaimed which means there are pensioners living in awful poverty that could be alleviate.

Efacsen · 21/07/2026 18:17

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:09

I’ve got a fair idea too.

And me - makes name-changing a bit pointless

pointythings · 21/07/2026 18:18

When sanity returns to the White House, sure. Until then, there's no point pandering to the orange loon. He'll promise you the earth and call you the devil a week later.

TemperanceWest · 21/07/2026 18:19

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 17:50

Shame all the benefit bashers aren’t bothered by all the unpaid tax.

That is because they are busy cheering on those who exploit tax loopholes with complex financial arrangements.

placemats · 21/07/2026 18:21

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:14

There is a saying about leading a horse to water.

How would you address the issue ?

It's incredibly tricky. A bit like trying to get a cleaner in for your parent, who can easily afford it, or having that discussion about giving up driving.

I think there should be a push by the DWP, re day time advertising on the TV, social media, etc, to actively encourage those that need it to apply.

Also social community hubs should be a gateway to lending confidential voice and hand, without judgement.

MPs should have dedicated time to engage quietly with the hubs and offer extra help.

SerendipityJane · 21/07/2026 18:21

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 18:16

Simplify the forms.

In what way ? To require less information ? Bigger print ? "Simplify" is a very versatile word.

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