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Thread 1 Burnham: Esperanza en cada Corazón

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DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 12:45

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TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 18:39

So @placemats do you think Starmer would have been too old to lead Labour into the next GE?

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:42

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:35

That’s a whole different argument. Healey’s age isn’t a stick to beat him with. He’s below pension age.

He's not bellow pension age. He's in receipt of his state pension. He was born in February 1960. Having been born six months later I have to wait until this time next year to get my pension.

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:43

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:42

He's not bellow pension age. He's in receipt of his state pension. He was born in February 1960. Having been born six months later I have to wait until this time next year to get my pension.

Ah ok. I still don’t think 66 is necessarily too old to be effective. I k ow nothing much about him, so there may be good reasons he’s not. I just don’t think age is one.

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:44

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 18:39

So @placemats do you think Starmer would have been too old to lead Labour into the next GE?

He wouldn't be of a pensionable age. John Healey is in receipt of a state pension.

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 18:44

Milliband gets Foreign Secretary

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BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 18:44

This is the last thread where I expected to find ageism. I’m a bit shocked to be honest.

Piggywaspushed · 20/07/2026 18:45

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 18:44

Milliband gets Foreign Secretary

Edited

This is good, right?

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 18:46

Mahmood keeps Home Office

Not sure about that myself.

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Saucery · 20/07/2026 18:46

Piggywaspushed · 20/07/2026 18:45

This is good, right?

I think he has good standing on the international stage.

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 18:46

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:44

He wouldn't be of a pensionable age. John Healey is in receipt of a state pension.

He would be the same age JH is now, but a year off state pension age. Which JH would be now if he had been born a a few months later!

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 18:46

Piggywaspushed · 20/07/2026 18:45

This is good, right?

I think so

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cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:47

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:44

He wouldn't be of a pensionable age. John Healey is in receipt of a state pension.

That’s a bit of a weird distinction to make - they’re the same age give or take.

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:49

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 18:46

He would be the same age JH is now, but a year off state pension age. Which JH would be now if he had been born a a few months later!

That's a moot point. And I'm not being ageist, just pointing out the fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer is in receipt of a state pension.

And I'm also allowed to say that I don't like him as a politician.

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:49

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 18:46

Mahmood keeps Home Office

Not sure about that myself.

I share your misgivings

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:51

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:49

That's a moot point. And I'm not being ageist, just pointing out the fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer is in receipt of a state pension.

And I'm also allowed to say that I don't like him as a politician.

That’s not what you said though. You said he was a pensioner. I know little about him as a politician - what don’t you like?

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:51

Why is Ed Miliband foreign secretary?

It makes no sense.

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:51

I'm losing all hope here 😂

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:52

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:51

Why is Ed Miliband foreign secretary?

It makes no sense.

Why don’t you like this appointment? He has experience. He’s a good politician. He can focus on this which isn’t Burnham’s strong suit. What aren’t you liking?

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:53

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:51

That’s not what you said though. You said he was a pensioner. I know little about him as a politician - what don’t you like?

I said he was a pensioner and in receipt of the state pension. The Chancellor of the Exchequer.

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:53

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:53

I said he was a pensioner and in receipt of the state pension. The Chancellor of the Exchequer.

But what’s the issue with him? Why do you think he’s incompetent? Because being 66 isn’t enough on its own.

BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 18:53

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:53

I said he was a pensioner and in receipt of the state pension. The Chancellor of the Exchequer.

I can’t see the problem. Can you explain @placemats?

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:54

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:52

Why don’t you like this appointment? He has experience. He’s a good politician. He can focus on this which isn’t Burnham’s strong suit. What aren’t you liking?

Why do you think he'd be a good Foreign secretary? Give me some hope here.

LizzieW1969 · 20/07/2026 18:54

I think he’s trying to keep both wings of the party happy and maintain unity. Miliband as FS and Mahmoud as HS is a very interesting mix, along with Healey as Chancellor. Time will tell whether Burnham has chosen wisely or not.

placemats · 20/07/2026 18:55

Apart from Mahmood staying as home secretary, which was to be expected, what other big roles are going to Labour women?

Saucery · 20/07/2026 18:56

BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 18:53

I can’t see the problem. Can you explain @placemats?

Are you worried he will give subsidies for those single boot things with a zipper and turn the heating up in No. 11 to 28 degrees?

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