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DuncinToffee · 30/06/2026 17:44

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LittleBowSheep · 10/07/2026 10:47

I've just learnt how to copy and paste on my phone but forgot to add text to my last post. The link is from the Count Binface Appreciation page on Facebook. Lots there to keep us laughing.

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2026 10:53

LittleBowSheep · 10/07/2026 10:47

I've just learnt how to copy and paste on my phone but forgot to add text to my last post. The link is from the Count Binface Appreciation page on Facebook. Lots there to keep us laughing.

I’m loving that FB group. I just stole this.

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cardibach · 10/07/2026 10:53

There aren’t many people whose death leaves me completely cold, but Widdecombe has managed it. Perfect for that Top Gear gif but I can’t bring myself to post Clarkson. You know the one. “Oh no…anyway”

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:04

cardibach · 10/07/2026 10:53

There aren’t many people whose death leaves me completely cold, but Widdecombe has managed it. Perfect for that Top Gear gif but I can’t bring myself to post Clarkson. You know the one. “Oh no…anyway”

What a revolting comment

cardibach · 10/07/2026 11:06

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:04

What a revolting comment

Why? I’m telling you my feelings about her, which are - I have none. I’m not celebrating. I’m just indifferent. I’m not mourning. Which she caused by her horrible actions when she had the opportunity to do better.

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:12

cardibach · 10/07/2026 11:06

Why? I’m telling you my feelings about her, which are - I have none. I’m not celebrating. I’m just indifferent. I’m not mourning. Which she caused by her horrible actions when she had the opportunity to do better.

Why couldn’t you have said nothing at all

DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 11:12

I am sure you will have seen some of the thinsg she said @derxa But here you are once again berating peoplle.

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DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 11:14

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:12

Why couldn’t you have said nothing at all

As could you

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Zonder · 10/07/2026 11:16

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:12

Why couldn’t you have said nothing at all

Well that's an interesting question. Do you ever ask yourself it?

In this case AW was a controversial figure, and by dying she didn't suddenly become a saint. I think someone commenting that they have no feelings is pretty fair. I expect many people have far more negative feelings about her.

Zonder · 10/07/2026 11:16

Notonthestairs · 10/07/2026 10:29

Surely they agree whole class learning is the only way and schools should get rid of those pesky support staff and luxury peripheral activities?

I'm struggling to think of anyone!

DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 11:19

https://bsky.app/profile/cjmckeon.bsky.social/post/3mqbvmmtazs2p

It's official, the Clacton by-election will be held on August 13.

The announcement from Tendring Council includes a nice picture of the writ for the by-election, which is not something I've ever seen before.

Chris McKeon (@cjmckeon.bsky.social)

It's official, the Clacton by-election will be held on August 13. The announcement from Tendring Council includes a nice picture of the writ for the by-election, which is not something I've ever seen before.

https://bsky.app/profile/cjmckeon.bsky.social/post/3mqbvmmtazs2p

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Notonthestairs · 10/07/2026 11:23

Good. The Standards Commissioner can pick back up the investigation on the 14th. I don't suppose the report will be finalised before September but (unless they have to widened it to include the Cottrel stuff) should be done by October ish.
So delayed but not buried.

cardibach · 10/07/2026 11:24

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:12

Why couldn’t you have said nothing at all

Because I’m on a discussion forum discussing my thoughts and feelings about events. I wouldn’t say it to her friends and family. You’ve said some pretty nasty things about public figures in the past. I don’t happen to believe ‘don’t speak ill of the dead’ means we have to pretend they were all roses, though it probably applies when speaking to people who knew them personally, unless we are very sure of their own opinions on the matter.

5128gap · 10/07/2026 11:24

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:04

What a revolting comment

Why? The woman was 78 years old and had lived a fortunate, comfortable privileged life. We all have to go at some point don't we? Why should people who have no liking or respect for her feel sad at her death? We tend to only mourn the passing of strangers where we feel the person has made a positive contribution. Otherwise, its perfectly normal to feel nothing.

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2026 11:26

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:04

What a revolting comment

If you find it so revolting other threads are available. I thought it was pretty mild, my thoughts on the subject are far less charitable.

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:27

Zonder · 10/07/2026 11:16

Well that's an interesting question. Do you ever ask yourself it?

In this case AW was a controversial figure, and by dying she didn't suddenly become a saint. I think someone commenting that they have no feelings is pretty fair. I expect many people have far more negative feelings about her.

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Well she didn’t mean she had no feelings did she. The implication was that she disliked her intensely. Whatever

countrygirl99 · 10/07/2026 11:29

DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 11:14

As could you

Given what you say about Ursula Von Der Leyen that's a bit rich. Pot and kettle spring to mind.

MsJinks · 10/07/2026 11:30

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:27

Well she didn’t mean she had no feelings did she. The implication was that she disliked her intensely. Whatever

Interesting- do we have to not dislike anyone who is now dead? Or just not in the immediate aftermath of their death?

Either could bring up some interesting moral discussion though.

TemperanceWest · 10/07/2026 11:32

countrygirl99 · 10/07/2026 11:29

Given what you say about Ursula Von Der Leyen that's a bit rich. Pot and kettle spring to mind.

Good point. Any thoughts @derxa ?

placemats · 10/07/2026 11:32

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:04

What a revolting comment

Better steer clear from the thread then. Oh and I don't think it's a revolting comment at all.

TemperanceWest · 10/07/2026 11:34

placemats · 10/07/2026 11:32

Better steer clear from the thread then. Oh and I don't think it's a revolting comment at all.

Agree. It is not revolting to express indifference towards the death of a person by natural causes.

cardibach · 10/07/2026 11:35

derxa · 10/07/2026 11:27

Well she didn’t mean she had no feelings did she. The implication was that she disliked her intensely. Whatever

I meant what I said. I have no feelings about her death. I disliked her behaviour and opinions when she was alive, therefore her death does not move me. I feel nothing about it.

placemats · 10/07/2026 11:35

TemperanceWest · 10/07/2026 11:32

Good point. Any thoughts @derxa ?

I noticed @derxa was absent when Lowe's despicable comment on the Dunblane massacre was discussed here yesterday.

cardibach · 10/07/2026 11:37

Anyway…
Perdy seems to have melted. Her front legs, in particular, seem to have melted clean away.

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BIossomtoes · 10/07/2026 11:38

Poor love. Gorgeous as that luxuriant fur is, it must be torture in this weather.

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