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logicisall · 04/05/2026 11:02

walllaw · 04/05/2026 10:50

How could the US possibly take over the strait? What would that even entail And how would that be better? Trump is probably hoping to privatise it.

Trump will simply rename everything. N to S - American Gulf, the Strait of America, Gulf of America 2.
He will then be able to charge the tolls he had floated earlier...

Nah, can't see this one ever happening. Iran's not Venezuela!

MushMonster · 04/05/2026 11:03

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 10:32

They have changed their charge proposals I think. Free for friends, toll for non friends, and blocked for enemies.

Even when the proposed toll was for all, I think it was a buck per barrell. Thats still a lot less than the 40 or so bucks extra per barrell since Trump "took control".

Also, we have not forgotten about the joined venture.... that is what they are actually doing. Extracting huge amounts of money from all of us by blocading the Strait of Hormuz. Which difference does it make if it originally goes to the oil company or Putin bank account? Then transferred in the betting markets or whatever way. We are not stupid. And Trump talks a lot. And they do not even bother to cover up that much.

MagpiePi · 04/05/2026 11:07

logicisall · 04/05/2026 11:02

Trump will simply rename everything. N to S - American Gulf, the Strait of America, Gulf of America 2.
He will then be able to charge the tolls he had floated earlier...

Nah, can't see this one ever happening. Iran's not Venezuela!

I imagine Trump thinks all he needs to do is build one of these at each end of the Straits and everything will be sorted.

His MAGAsty Meets His Majesty - Trump Thread #163
RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 11:08

MushMonster · 04/05/2026 11:03

Also, we have not forgotten about the joined venture.... that is what they are actually doing. Extracting huge amounts of money from all of us by blocading the Strait of Hormuz. Which difference does it make if it originally goes to the oil company or Putin bank account? Then transferred in the betting markets or whatever way. We are not stupid. And Trump talks a lot. And they do not even bother to cover up that much.

Yes. I was just about to post that. Trump saw the idea of charging passage, and the $$ sprung up. Free money. He talked of expanding it I think. Then changed his mind.

Yes, he wanted to do a joint venture with Iran, so HE could get a cut.

Llttledrummergirl · 04/05/2026 11:08

TheGardenRose · 04/05/2026 10:35

Tbh I'm past caring who controls the fucking strait. So long as it's open to all

I don't think from your previous posts that you understand the situation, or the anger in the rest of the world thats bubbling against America right now.

While Trump was fucking his own country over, and being allowed to destroy democracy by the people who lived there, the World needed to work with the despot, despite his ridiculous threats.

Then he started to act on them, first against weaker countries, Cuba, Venezuela, committing piracy and state sanctioned murder of fishermen. Congress did nothing. The Senate did nothing. The American people accepted it.

Then he attacked a stronger country. I don't support the Iranian regime (among making that clear), but you cannot bomb a country into regime change. That is obvious to all except the fucking stupid which is apparently what makes up American leadership. Trumps fuck up is now effecting the rest of the world.

People are go to starve as a result of his fuckwittery. Us in richer countries will get through this, it won't be easy, and it won't be great but the effects are being felt already.

Trump needs to fuck off back to America and stay there.

Wipeywipey · 04/05/2026 11:13

It would be great if Anonymous or similar underground Robin Hood hackers were able to use potential internet blackouts to retrieve billions in offshore account funds in taxes. I know it would technically be fraud to take it, but even if they could flag accounts linked to companies in a clear way when there is a scramble for liquidised funds. I am already imagining that the most dramatic outcome is what Donald is aiming for. I have no idea why he would be sending so many explosive devices to sit directly above these cables if it were not planned by someone. Maybe Russia has talked up the Big Boom again.

TheGardenRose · 04/05/2026 11:15

Llttledrummergirl · 04/05/2026 11:08

I don't think from your previous posts that you understand the situation, or the anger in the rest of the world thats bubbling against America right now.

While Trump was fucking his own country over, and being allowed to destroy democracy by the people who lived there, the World needed to work with the despot, despite his ridiculous threats.

Then he started to act on them, first against weaker countries, Cuba, Venezuela, committing piracy and state sanctioned murder of fishermen. Congress did nothing. The Senate did nothing. The American people accepted it.

Then he attacked a stronger country. I don't support the Iranian regime (among making that clear), but you cannot bomb a country into regime change. That is obvious to all except the fucking stupid which is apparently what makes up American leadership. Trumps fuck up is now effecting the rest of the world.

People are go to starve as a result of his fuckwittery. Us in richer countries will get through this, it won't be easy, and it won't be great but the effects are being felt already.

Trump needs to fuck off back to America and stay there.

Well thanks for putting me in my place 🙄. I realise your knowledge is far superior to mine. Adiós.

Wipeywipey · 04/05/2026 11:18

Wait, aren't the votes all electric in US now?
I would be pulling a Nigel and demanding pencil and paper options in every state and preparing for a "coincidental" timing of disruption. I know I am sounding tin foil hat, but I don't put it past Trump as a dramatic distraction that somehow magically renders voting impossible.

walllaw · 04/05/2026 11:20

Llttledrummergirl · 04/05/2026 11:08

I don't think from your previous posts that you understand the situation, or the anger in the rest of the world thats bubbling against America right now.

While Trump was fucking his own country over, and being allowed to destroy democracy by the people who lived there, the World needed to work with the despot, despite his ridiculous threats.

Then he started to act on them, first against weaker countries, Cuba, Venezuela, committing piracy and state sanctioned murder of fishermen. Congress did nothing. The Senate did nothing. The American people accepted it.

Then he attacked a stronger country. I don't support the Iranian regime (among making that clear), but you cannot bomb a country into regime change. That is obvious to all except the fucking stupid which is apparently what makes up American leadership. Trumps fuck up is now effecting the rest of the world.

People are go to starve as a result of his fuckwittery. Us in richer countries will get through this, it won't be easy, and it won't be great but the effects are being felt already.

Trump needs to fuck off back to America and stay there.

Trump needs to fuck off back to America and stay there.

Sorry, no. We are not interested in keeping him.

SerendipityJane · 04/05/2026 11:23

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 10:35

It interests me how they say 15000 people, rather then the number of ships. As CNN pointed out, each carrier has 5k people.

But carrier complement is divided between naval and air forces.

Also huge numbers are so 20th century, apparently. Isn't HMS Queen Elizabeth manned by 1,600 ?

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 11:25

Llttledrummergirl · 04/05/2026 11:08

I don't think from your previous posts that you understand the situation, or the anger in the rest of the world thats bubbling against America right now.

While Trump was fucking his own country over, and being allowed to destroy democracy by the people who lived there, the World needed to work with the despot, despite his ridiculous threats.

Then he started to act on them, first against weaker countries, Cuba, Venezuela, committing piracy and state sanctioned murder of fishermen. Congress did nothing. The Senate did nothing. The American people accepted it.

Then he attacked a stronger country. I don't support the Iranian regime (among making that clear), but you cannot bomb a country into regime change. That is obvious to all except the fucking stupid which is apparently what makes up American leadership. Trumps fuck up is now effecting the rest of the world.

People are go to starve as a result of his fuckwittery. Us in richer countries will get through this, it won't be easy, and it won't be great but the effects are being felt already.

Trump needs to fuck off back to America and stay there.

You forgot Greenland. He wanted that. Still does. Apparently there is a Greenlander guy just now, sat by the dock with a MAGA hat, waiting for a hospital ship.

Good disclaimer.

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 11:30

SerendipityJane · 04/05/2026 11:23

But carrier complement is divided between naval and air forces.

Also huge numbers are so 20th century, apparently. Isn't HMS Queen Elizabeth manned by 1,600 ?

Yup. The 5K or so is total.

UK has trouble getting sailors apparently, so less kit and a bit more automation.

I think the US has the recruitment advantage of healthcare. If you want it, sign up.

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/05/2026 11:31

The Iranians are claiming they've turned back a US warship.

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 11:36

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/05/2026 11:31

The Iranians are claiming they've turned back a US warship.

Maybe they did not have the correct change for the toll ?

countrygirl99 · 04/05/2026 11:38

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 11:36

Maybe they did not have the correct change for the toll ?

Or their card got declined. Maybe they couldn't remember the PIN

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/05/2026 11:41

Is Chump normally up yet?

Wipeywipey · 04/05/2026 11:44

Isn't this what happened when they were waiting for backup before, they were turned away and waited around the corner until the muscle showed up...while Trump was saying about ceasefire the first time I think.

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 11:45

countrygirl99 · 04/05/2026 11:38

Or their card got declined. Maybe they couldn't remember the PIN

Ahh. No internet. I forgot about that.

And it's not as if anyone will give Trump credit.

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/05/2026 11:49

They're now claiming they've fired on a warship. Oh boy.

logicisall · 04/05/2026 12:00

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/05/2026 11:49

They're now claiming they've fired on a warship. Oh boy.

But US denies it. Who to believe?

RedTagAlan · 04/05/2026 12:03

logicisall · 04/05/2026 12:00

But US denies it. Who to believe?

Toss ?

But Trump probably has a double headed coin. And shouts "tails".

It's like that parked plane that Trump said " tis but a scratch". Then we saw the photos.

logicisall · 04/05/2026 12:03

Honestly MNHQ, bring back the rofl emoji!

Llttledrummergirl · 04/05/2026 12:10

The Americans are denying casualties are happening, this seems to be more of the same

Did they ever read Peter and the Wolf?

DuncinToffee · 04/05/2026 12:27

Amnesty International is issuing travel advice for the world cup matches in the US

https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/2026-world-cup-travel-advisory/

logicisall · 04/05/2026 12:44

In case anyone was wondering how the humanitarian Project Freedom is going to work.

It's not necessarily the US Navy escorting commercial shipping through the SoH, but rather advising them on safe maritime routes and staying close to prevent any Iranian attacks
BBC

Ship owners are all shouting "Bollocks!"

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