A whole civilisation will die tonight.

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Tumps exact words today!

WTAF? That sounds like he is about to drop a Nuke!

How the hell has the world got here?

Trumps truth social posts sounds more like something that a dramatic gleeful tv presenter would say in a game show. Not something a world leader threatening to blow up an entire civilisation.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565

You only need to look at who funds Reform UK and the people joining the party to understand why. It’s truly a sad time when we have such decisive politics and people can’t see the woods from the trees.

Not at all, I am too. The problem is Trump isn't really worried about the Iranians having nukes either, since they can't reach him, only his ex-friends (us).

to those asking why Americans aren’t storming the White House? How do you think that would end? Too many are on his side, he’s too powerful. We’ve seen how ice act at protests, you think anyone can go in and take him down?
they’ve voted for him twice. No hope should be pinned there surely?

as for other leaders? I’d expect it would just make him more determined.

I honestly believe the only thing to stop him would be him backing down again he won’t be influenced and nobody has any power to stop him

for these reasons I hope it’s bluster but it’s very worrying

Soon probably, too late though, you can"t just press pause now?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/from-the-wire-trump-s-relationship-with-the-us-10y-bond-yield-may-tell-us-when-the-iranian-war-could-end/ar-AA1ZYqTG

@DomPom47
Spot on.

No I'm sorry that won't wash in a discussion.

You need to explain what you find incorrect about what the poster wrote.

I have defended Israel on this forum in the past but I don't believe what is happening now is right.

I believe that the way to tame Iran was through is western friendly neighbours and to allow the internal protests to build until they reached a critical momentum.

I believe that what Trump and Israel have done has severely damaged that process, which was well under way.

I believe that Trump and Isrsel have committed war crimes and are continuing to do so.

I feel very, very sorry for Jews in the western world who are not happy with what Israel is doing.

It's Trump. He just rambles and talks shite. Just ignore him, the best you can.

That statement alone should in a sane society, be sufficient for the lawyers or medics to vlbe stepping in yo remove him on the grounds that his mental state makes him a danger to others and therefore, in UK law, sectional. I am sure there will be something similar in UslS.

He'll probably be taken out by people close to him. He is the puppet, controlled by the puppet masters. It's wonderful for them that he is willing to say the things he does and they will allow him to keep saying them until he serves no further purpose.

Sectionable

I agree OP a line has permanently been crossed by the threat. Essentially it's suggesting genocide.

Because Trump is unpredictable and we have allowed our economies to be absolutely dependent on the US technology, and Trump is not above forcing companies like Microsoft or Visa to limit services delivered to Europe.

The only international player that could force US & Israel to back off is China, but they are happily sitting back and watching the US pull Western world into chaos.

A lot of them seem to have either gone very quiet/name changed or are pretending they were against it from the start.

There are a few still desperately peddling the line that this is all to help end the regime that murders its own people and that being against the war equals supporting the IRGC.

It's very sad to see the USA detiorated to where it is today. Does democracy even work any more? I am not sure. Look at European countries, population in general against mass immigration for many reasons inc cost, danger, change of country to a different culture... And yet no one stops. USA, the opposite, attacks on law abiding immigrants, deportations etc to which much of population objects to, but it happens. I think we're moving quickly to dictatorship despite elections

Unfortunately he doesn't just talk shit. He is bombing and killing people and talking about it like an excited child winning a game on his PlayStation.

What he has done and is proposing to do is highly illegal he should be tried for war crimes!

I said this on another thread as well, but once again we see a business man trying to apply the tactics of commercialism to politics. They operate in completely different ways, and it's why business people with no political background shouldn't be allowed to hold positions of high office.

Calling Israel and the US out for WAR CRIMES is not and never will be hateful rhetoric!

By whom?

Tell that to the parents of the 160+ murdered schoolchildren.

Can you elaborate?

Context for anyone who hasn't seen the news. Guardian

This may be a very naïve question, but I'll ask because I simply don't understand - How and why are more world leaders and frankly members of his own party not making a lot more fucking noise about how atrocious this fucking hideous man is. Why are they all sitting back and saying fuck all?

There are no checks and balances in the Trump administration. Surely that is clear by now?

The ICC presumably.

Even threatening action against civilians for the purposes of causing terror is a war crime, irrespective of whether he goes ahead.