A whole civilisation will die tonight.

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Tumps exact words today!

WTAF? That sounds like he is about to drop a Nuke!

How the hell has the world got here?

Trumps truth social posts sounds more like something that a dramatic gleeful tv presenter would say in a game show. Not something a world leader threatening to blow up an entire civilisation.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565

🤞 that this is going to give Trump a way out that he can live with.

And you know this how? The news outlets I have seen saying they are being ‘forced’ into it are very pro Trump/ pro Israel…

Anyone else in the UK setting their alarm clock for 1am for when the show starts?

People who feel that the Iranian public is free read life and death in Shanghai ...an astonishing memoir about a real life horror situation under a regime.
Also wild swans, and chair man maos doctor

If anyone thinks woman and children have willing of their own free volition gone out to protect bridges and power plants...read those books.

No, because I am hoping it doesn't.

True, but usually right.

I tend to abide by 2 rules

1. Ignore what people say. Instead watch what they do.

1. If in doubt, Follow. The. Money.

Let be honest its not going to happen, a rich man with a big gob thats all he is.
If it was full on full out ww3 england is fucked, our military/ armed forces are embarrassing.
And quiet frankly so are we.

I don’t disagree.

The footage of Iranian people linking hands across bridges etc is staged, obviously. Obviously.

You probably won't get your 'show.'

After a bit of showboating, Trump will race along the off-ramp that Pakistan has been encouraged, by the US, to produce in order to save his monstrous, genuinely evil arse.

No. Trump is all bluster and bluff. He is looking a bit ridiculous.

Agree on both points.

I’d be more worried if these words came from someone who is as good as their word. But he says a different thing every day, doesn’t he. Hopefully tomorrow he’ll be saying something like ‘we’re very close to making a deal’.

A senior Iranian official has told Reuters that Tehran is “positively reviewing” Pakistan’s proposal for a two week ceasefire.

Source: The Telegraph.

I have a relative (through marriage into the family) who left Iran in the late 70s so I understand a fair amount about Iran, and yes, there is a chance than men with guns are going round giving people out to be human shields. If Trump does what he says he’ll do then they risk death and maiming whatever. .

There are plenty of cruel regimes and dictatorships. Out of interest, you are so concerned about regimes that suppress women and treat them appallingly, (and some men too!) surely you believe that the US should be invading Afghanistan (again!). Read anything by Khaled Hosseni!

And if you want to see what might happen to the US under Herr Trump and the U.K. under Herr Farage then read The Handmaids tale - although from your user name, I suspect quasi religious fervour is your thing, under the guise of being a ‘good Christian’.

Wild swans is a fantastic read.

Not setting my alarm. Will see about it soon enough im sure.

It's possible to not be free and not to think that "being bombed back to the stone age" is going to improve your life. Its possible to loath the ruling regime and want electricity and clean water in the tap.

What a load of old tripe.

I think the handmaids tale is living itself out in the strict Sharia law counties not the usa or democratic western countries.

These people are being ordered out. Their lives are controlled on a miniscule level.

Setting an alarm? I wont even be going to sleep, I'll be going down into my cellar with the spiders to try and give myself a fighting chance.

Why? Are the Aytollahs carpet bombing Slough?

@Hallamule yes it is and it's also possible to believe that they won't bomb them back to the stone age but will try and get a shift in this regime.

I'm surprised no one else saw the lady crying on sky saying how desperate are we that we have begged another country to bomb us

These people are living in giant prison camps.

My user name is in reference to a film with Judy garland! 😘

The Show? That's in slightly bad taste ...

Why? Looks like Iran and the US will be agreeing a 2 week ceasefire soon, during which the Straight of Hormuz will reopen.

They are not free

those who have protested have taken a risk of losing their lives how brave but desperation has lead them to be something we just can’t comprehend in the west but that is how desperate they are

the regime is abhorrent noting less not just to their own people but the influence they have in other countries

but will the regime topple, it appears they were a lot better prepared than anyone expected and will think nothing of knowingly using women and children as shields

I wish they could be overthrown some other way