US strikes Iran

[mjf981]

In conjunction with Israel.
Why? Starting wars has never ever ended well for the US, or for the country they are trying to 'help.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5ge95q6y7t

Sure it's all Iranian government propaganda. Who I believe might be a bit busy blowing up KC-135s in Saudi Arabia. Not been a good week for refuelling tankers.

Telegram and Signal exist and people do have friends and family in the region not affiliated or connected to the Government. Ordinary people in the region publish and livestream the aggression against them, to ensure that it's on the record. War isn't just broadcast via official channels anymore.

Alternative media consisting of people not platformed by the MSM (such as soldiers, intelligence agents, bomb experts, lecturers and journalists) is producing content on this.

It was on Clayton Morris's show redacted that we first learned about the 140 "injured" US soldiers so far via his contacts in the Pentagon.

Perhaps, it will be like the Ukraine War, with magical figures produced by The Institute of War showing Ukraine winning, whilst Telegram channels published video of the dead bodies piling up.

As with everything discernment is important, for example the controversy currently happening over the "AI" video of Netanyahu with 6 fingers of course denied by his office but not before rampant speculation.

@BelleHathor

Maybe this is just me being ex-military, old, having been around a bit, sceptical and having seen the result of one conflict first hand, but for a long time I've held the opinion that most MSM is skewed both during and after conflicts and the internet has made things worse.

I also certainly wouldn't assume supposedly independent reports coming out of an area where the government controls comms (including internet) are at all independent.

The ex-soldier or int specialist commenting on-linrme or in MSM are often aiming for clicks or being paid to fill airtime so there is no guarantee of their objectivity....and I sure as heck wouldn't trust the a lot of the output on Telegram when it comes to Ukraine.

Ultimately my take on this is you have to take a look across a whole range of outlets, and always always ask yourself what message do the authorities that control output and/or control the purse strings want the world to believe.

@notimagain Fully agree with this and strive to do it, even if it means "hate watching" someone I dislike!:

Ultimately my take on this is you have to take a look across a whole range of outlets, and always always ask yourself what message do the authorities that control output and/or control the purse strings want the world to believe.

Telegram was a doozy when it came to the Ukraine Conflict, you had Russian channels pretending to be Ukrainian and vice versa in order to push propaganda. That's why discernment is really important and I try to curate my sources really carefully and review them often.

Also agree that there are so many people being paid to say whatever is needed, including ex-military.

Here is Darryl Cooper talking about the conflict (Ex US Navy E6 turned podcaster. Full disclosure Darryl was cancelled for controversial comments he made about Churchill and WW2 on Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan) but he has worked in Israel on Air Defence systems and knows his stuff:

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Also Ted Postal (MIT Professor) with Lieutenant Daniel Davis talking about Iranian missile capability.

It's simple, Trump didn't really have a plan and didn't involve anyone else apart from Israel. No he's blaming us for not being there or allowing his illegal war to use our bases. Now he wants our Navy to guard shipping lanes and attack Iranian assets.

We should grow some and tell Trump we have had enough of him, his wars, the abuse and his tarriffs....the guy is a horrible.

If we had Farage now our military who be in another war and as this will eventually involve a ground assault thousands of troops are going to be injured or killed