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Trump’s text message to the Norwegian PM

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TortoiseshellTabby · 19/01/2026 14:35

“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America."

This is why he’s justified in taking Greenland - apparently. How is this giant man-child in charge of the free world?

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Wooky073 · 20/01/2026 21:41

persephonia · 20/01/2026 20:54

The UK has an agreement with the US that they are allowed to basically pull out the computer systems and rewire them. So the kill switch, if it exists, isn't a huge threat. The UK would have to spend the money to do that but it's not like building a whole new plane. Moving forward I agree it would be extremely foolish to keep buying American weapons. The planes in particular are a funny one because we build about 15% of them. It's a boost for the UK defence industry but it has already had downsides since we don't have any control over where the finished planes are sent or how they are used. A lot of complaints about UK making weapons being used in genocide goes back to those planes.

Shared intelligence is a big issue, but it's shared intelligence. The US stands to lose from that relationship ending too. Plus we don't have a choice. If the US isn't trustworthy any more then it's suicidal to rely on their intelligence. And the increasing incompetence/loss of cooperation from other parties means their intelligence won't be worth as much anyway.

The US is advanced in terms of hardware. But most of its power and it's benefit in terms of an ally comes from the confidence other countries (enemies and friends) have in it. As they lose confidence we lose to even if America was still a staunch ally to us. Which they aren't.

Some great points made here !

Wooky073 · 20/01/2026 21:47

happychops · 20/01/2026 19:13

This.

There are rumours going around on social media that the Ep files get much much worse - alleged torture, snuff films, murder ...... I dont know to what extent it is being / ever will be properly investigated or if it will ever come to light so I dont know if it ever will become more than rumours. I really hope it is not true but if it is then I hope the truth comes out

hohummm1 · 20/01/2026 21:58

LifeQuestion · 20/01/2026 18:08

Most mumsnetters will be nodding in agreement because they follow mainstream news. As much as Trump is an odious man, a terrible example of a statesman, the things that are happening in USA under his instruction is mind blowing. He is exposing massive (and I mean huge) corruption, in the billions upon billions. He’s getting criminals removed, he’s shut the border, Dr’s are praising him because instead of 10 deaths a day from Fentanyl overdoses, they are reduced to two a day.
Trump has been doing good things behind the scenes for 20/30 years, but
you won’t find any of this on the mainstream news.
also the Kennedy looking after health, is doing more than anyone to stop big pharma, and to stop food company’s from poisoning, and pushing UPF’s.
if you don’t believe this, a Google search should do it.

You can't be real? I won't even bother with the rest of this, but

also the Kennedy looking after health, is doing more than anyone to stop big pharma, and to stop food company’s from poisoning, and pushing UPF’s.
if you don’t believe this, a Google search should do it.

You must have your very own delusional google. Because even the AI result on mine says (which is the very tip of the iceberg):

AI Overview

The U.S. has seen significant efforts to loosen food and environmental standards recently, particularly under the Trump administration's second term, including the
FDArevoking 52 food standards, the EPA rolling back air/water pollution rules, and easing restrictions on cooling gases (HFCs), with critics warning of increased health risks, toxic exposure (lead, "forever chemicals"), and environmental damage, while proponents argue it cuts red tape and boosts economy, though some business groups are wary of regulatory flip-flops.

FDA to Revoke 52 Obsolete Standards of Identity for Food Products

FDA to Revoke 52 Obsolete Standards of Identity for Food Products

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-revoke-52-obsolete-standards-identity-food-products

SchoolMum66 · 20/01/2026 23:45

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 19/01/2026 15:43

What I want to know is why more Americans are not out on the streets demanding an end to this. And yes, I know that there have been protests, but I would expect this level of dysfunction - and this level of blatant unsuitability for public office - to have triggered a massive uprising by now. Where is the opposition?

We all knew that Trump was going to be a disaster. What I find incomprehensible is how little pushback there seems to be. Are people too fearful to fight back? Are they resigned to their fates? Heads buried in the sand?

I don't get it.

This

Kendodd · 21/01/2026 08:37

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 19/01/2026 15:43

What I want to know is why more Americans are not out on the streets demanding an end to this. And yes, I know that there have been protests, but I would expect this level of dysfunction - and this level of blatant unsuitability for public office - to have triggered a massive uprising by now. Where is the opposition?

We all knew that Trump was going to be a disaster. What I find incomprehensible is how little pushback there seems to be. Are people too fearful to fight back? Are they resigned to their fates? Heads buried in the sand?

I don't get it.

I think he has more support than we think, so enough Americans are on side.
I also think most (or enough) Russians support Putin's actions.
I think most/enough Israelis support the demolition and occupation of Gaza and the Left Bank.
And most Palestinians support Hamas.
Sad state.

YourBrickTiger · 21/01/2026 09:05

Daygloboo · 20/01/2026 18:11

Just seen what he's said today. Oh surely he needs to go . He's not balanced. There must be mechanisms by which US system can get rid of him. You cant have a leader of the free world as wobbly as that. Surely !!

Him saying that he's basically the greatest thing that has ever happened to NATO while simultaneously threatening NATO has pushed me over the edge.

Fliesinmyeyes · 21/01/2026 09:27

Dymaxion · 19/01/2026 15:36

The whole Greenland thing is unreal. He said it was because he doesn't want Russia too close and yet there is only about 55 miles between the two mainlands, plus there is already an agreement allowing the US to put as many bases/troops on Greenland as they want, so what it is about if not security ?

It's actually less than 3 miles between the two.

YourBrickTiger · 21/01/2026 09:35

Fliesinmyeyes · 21/01/2026 09:27

It's actually less than 3 miles between the two.

What it's always about - oil and gas. As the ice is melting, the ice and gas is easier to drill, easier to access.

Daygloboo · 21/01/2026 09:37

YourBrickTiger · 21/01/2026 09:05

Him saying that he's basically the greatest thing that has ever happened to NATO while simultaneously threatening NATO has pushed me over the edge.

It's sometimes hard to know whether he's being deliberately disruptive or if his comments are just random and lack coherence. I dont think he's a suitable leader of the free world , whatever the explanation.

Womaninhouse17 · 21/01/2026 10:08

'More or Less' on Radio 4 this morning had an interesting article about the size and relative position of Greenland.

YourBrickTiger · 21/01/2026 10:32

Air Force One has been delayed over a technical fault. Probably caused by him to keep everyone waiting. He has designed and built another aircraft in between times, to rival Boeing and will arrive faster than the speed of sound any moment.

Kielys72 · 21/01/2026 11:37

GrethaGreen · 19/01/2026 15:06

What 8 wars plus has he stopped?

Exactly. He’s a complete fantasist, so they’re the ones in his head.

OnceatHome · 24/01/2026 22:56

My children are grown. What are you with young children, say ages 9-15, saying about Trump? You don't want to frighten them, or endorse his behaviour. I'm glad I didn't have such a dilemma when mine were younger.

Imdoodleladie · 25/01/2026 02:10

I rhibk he's great!!👍

tommyhoundmum · 25/01/2026 09:25

Imdoodleladie · 25/01/2026 02:10

I rhibk he's great!!👍

You have something in common with him. He can't spell either.

Labelledelune · 25/01/2026 12:34

Watch the videos of the people of Greenland before insulting Trump. He could save the whole world and you still flag him off. The people of Iran are very happy with him as well.

FlyingCatGirl · 25/01/2026 13:03

LifeQuestion · 20/01/2026 18:08

Most mumsnetters will be nodding in agreement because they follow mainstream news. As much as Trump is an odious man, a terrible example of a statesman, the things that are happening in USA under his instruction is mind blowing. He is exposing massive (and I mean huge) corruption, in the billions upon billions. He’s getting criminals removed, he’s shut the border, Dr’s are praising him because instead of 10 deaths a day from Fentanyl overdoses, they are reduced to two a day.
Trump has been doing good things behind the scenes for 20/30 years, but
you won’t find any of this on the mainstream news.
also the Kennedy looking after health, is doing more than anyone to stop big pharma, and to stop food company’s from poisoning, and pushing UPF’s.
if you don’t believe this, a Google search should do it.

Food standards are notoriously dire in the US! Chlorinated chicken etc! And I frequently see articles about listeria, salmonella and ecoli outbreaks in US food!

LlttledrummergirI · 25/01/2026 14:24

Labelledelune · 25/01/2026 12:34

Watch the videos of the people of Greenland before insulting Trump. He could save the whole world and you still flag him off. The people of Iran are very happy with him as well.

The videos of the Greenland people protesting against his threats to invade?

SunnySideDeepDown · 25/01/2026 14:33

zipadeeday · 19/01/2026 14:36

😂If nothing else, he's good entertainment value.

Don't worry about him. He'll be gone before long.

Tell that to the women who are being forced to continue with pregnancies. Tell that to the families of those who have been unlawfully detained and those who have been shot by ICE. Tell that to the minority groups in the US who now feel more vulnerable and unsafe than ever. Tell that to the nations around the world who now realise the US is now a threat rather than an ally - lots of us who worry what war could be around the corner.

People absolutely SHOULD be worrying about him. Hes deranged, immoral, stupid and dangerous. The American people need to oust him.

SunnySideDeepDown · 25/01/2026 14:37

The amount of lies he’s told that have been exposed - how is anyone standing by him? They must be extremely naive to say the least.

ThatCyanCat · 25/01/2026 14:57

Imdoodleladie · 25/01/2026 02:10

I rhibk he's great!!👍

OMG COVFEFE

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/01/2026 14:57

FlyingCatGirl · 25/01/2026 13:03

Food standards are notoriously dire in the US! Chlorinated chicken etc! And I frequently see articles about listeria, salmonella and ecoli outbreaks in US food!

"also the Kennedy looking after health, is doing more than anyone to"

cause the USA to lose the measles elimination status which it gained in 2000.

Measles, as people seem to have forgotten since the vaccine started to be available in 1963 and they stopped seeing their children and their friends' children having the disease, or having it themselves, does not just kill children (it and diphtheria used to compete for which killed more children annually in the USA). It also destroys their eyesight and leads to blindness. It also causes encephalitis, and subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (fatal in most cases, and occurring after the initial infection is past).

And this is what Trump's chosen health supremo is causing. Truly Trump is the Great Saviour. According to fools and shills, anyway.

MischkasMum · 25/01/2026 15:11

GrethaGreen · 19/01/2026 15:06

What 8 wars plus has he stopped?

Thanks. I thought I was the only one questioning that. To my knowledge, he hasn't actually stopped any wars never mind 8+.

ThatCyanCat · 25/01/2026 15:13

MischkasMum · 25/01/2026 15:11

Thanks. I thought I was the only one questioning that. To my knowledge, he hasn't actually stopped any wars never mind 8+.

Ah, but you don't know about them because he stopped them, you see!

I've got my lion repellant spray ready. No lions about? That proves it's working!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/01/2026 15:51

ThatCyanCat
I've got my lion repellant spray ready. No lions about? That proves it's working!

I have been wearing a particular hat since 1968 in order to avoid being hit by low-flying elephants, and I haven't been hit by one yet.

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