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Labour isn't working - Thread 6

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TheNuthatch · 22/08/2025 15:23

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 19:09

Hollyohara · 01/09/2025 18:18

And by the way Keir my girls only really knew about Angela Rayner when they saw photos of her vaping on a blow up kayak in the sea in Hove. So not particularly inspired so far.

Yep, not exactly a role model I would want my girls to aspire to.

I don't buy all this shtick about how much Rayner has achieved, working class, teenage mum, now deputy pm blah blah blah.
I just think she's a token wc northerner with a big gob. Promoted way beyond her abilities to keep certain factions happy. She just needs to shout 'scum' now and again to keep them onside.

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menonprohibebis · 01/09/2025 19:45

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 19:09

Yep, not exactly a role model I would want my girls to aspire to.

I don't buy all this shtick about how much Rayner has achieved, working class, teenage mum, now deputy pm blah blah blah.
I just think she's a token wc northerner with a big gob. Promoted way beyond her abilities to keep certain factions happy. She just needs to shout 'scum' now and again to keep them onside.

Agreed - the equivalent of a diversity hire, who’s utility was to keep the unions onside, and presumably because Starmer did not plausibly consider her as a threat.

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 19:55

EmpressoftheMundane · 01/09/2025 17:44

Even the Guardian can smell it. It stinks. The only place she is being defended is on MN. Even her house valuation of £650K is a potentially convenient tax dodge.
Another article here
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/01/angela-rayners-hove-flat-five-questions-for-the-deputy-pm

Angela Rayner’s Hove flat: five questions for the deputy PM

What Rayner may be asked to explain about the arrangements behind her purchase of an £800,000 home

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/01/angela-rayners-hove-flat-five-questions-for-the-deputy-pm

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EasternStandard · 01/09/2025 20:01

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 19:01

Agreed. They will find a way to twist it within 24 hours. They're probably waiting for our dear leader to show them the way and give them something to spin.
Maybe something along the lines of 'well we can't help everybody, as much as we'd like to' 🎻 🤮

I can't read the Rayner thread without feeling nauseous. They are actually defending her 'tax dodging'. I mean come on people.

All that ‘safe routes’ ‘faster processing’ blah blah will be out in a day. They’ll embrace no asylum for women and children no problem.

No principles and rank hypocrisy.

Agree on the nauseating Rayner stuff, I can’t read those threads the cheerleading makes me feel nauseous.

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 20:12

You're right Eastern. We should name this the no women and children policy. That's what it is.

They have the cheek to call tories nasty. I was again labelled far-right a few days ago on MN.

Another one from the Guardian. They are not happy.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/01/yvette-cooper-accused-of-pushing-children-towards-people-smugglers-by-halting-refugee-scheme.

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TwoTierBbq · 01/09/2025 20:31

So apparntly Yvette has been challenged by her own back benchers and Jodie gosling labour Nuneaton asked how migrants would be vetted and dispersed ,especially groups known to be high risk ,to safe guard our communities

Coopers response : "anyone who comes to our country needs to abide by our laws ,the rules need to be enforced ".

😱.

Who wants to donate through tax to " re educating thousands and thousands of young men on all our laws especially around sex education, equality and so on ??

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/09/2025 20:44

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 20:12

You're right Eastern. We should name this the no women and children policy. That's what it is.

They have the cheek to call tories nasty. I was again labelled far-right a few days ago on MN.

Another one from the Guardian. They are not happy.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/01/yvette-cooper-accused-of-pushing-children-towards-people-smugglers-by-halting-refugee-scheme.

Don't worry @TheNuthatch, even the BBC is being tarred with the far-right stick lately 😂

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 20:45

TwoTierBbq · 01/09/2025 20:31

So apparntly Yvette has been challenged by her own back benchers and Jodie gosling labour Nuneaton asked how migrants would be vetted and dispersed ,especially groups known to be high risk ,to safe guard our communities

Coopers response : "anyone who comes to our country needs to abide by our laws ,the rules need to be enforced ".

😱.

Who wants to donate through tax to " re educating thousands and thousands of young men on all our laws especially around sex education, equality and so on ??

So we must wait until they commit an offence first to weed out the wrong uns.
Meanwhile we ban women and children.

Of course they also think that the Rwanda plan was 'inhumane'.

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TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 20:50

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/09/2025 20:44

Don't worry @TheNuthatch, even the BBC is being tarred with the far-right stick lately 😂

Really? Good God.
If the BBC are far-right, I'm screwed 😂

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ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/09/2025 20:51

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 20:45

So we must wait until they commit an offence first to weed out the wrong uns.
Meanwhile we ban women and children.

Of course they also think that the Rwanda plan was 'inhumane'.

Great. Let's see which of these undocumented men are the bad ones by observing which ones we need to arrest for criminality. How is that compatible with reducing harm to women and girls?

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 20:56

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/09/2025 20:51

Great. Let's see which of these undocumented men are the bad ones by observing which ones we need to arrest for criminality. How is that compatible with reducing harm to women and girls?

🎯

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Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:00

Why has Rayner got a court order banning her from transparency about her tax affairs please

menonprohibebis · 01/09/2025 21:03

Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:00

Why has Rayner got a court order banning her from transparency about her tax affairs please

Because she could not lie straight in bed.

Evidently, you can take the girl out of Stockport…. (With due respect to those who herald from, reside in Stockport)

Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:05

@menonprohibebis well very true but jeez what an awful lying twit

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 21:06

Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:00

Why has Rayner got a court order banning her from transparency about her tax affairs please

I don't know Parsley. No10 have confirmed that a court order is in place, but not why.

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EasternStandard · 01/09/2025 21:09

Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:00

Why has Rayner got a court order banning her from transparency about her tax affairs please

Bizarre

menonprohibebis · 01/09/2025 21:10

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 21:06

I don't know Parsley. No10 have confirmed that a court order is in place, but not why.

It utterly reeks.

She has been reported as using Shoosmiths for trust purposes. I suspect that she is simply buying time whilst she ‘manages’ the subsequent narrative with them first.

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 21:13

menonprohibebis · 01/09/2025 21:10

It utterly reeks.

She has been reported as using Shoosmiths for trust purposes. I suspect that she is simply buying time whilst she ‘manages’ the subsequent narrative with them first.

Absolutely. Its certainly the most plausible explanation.

I have to say, her tax dodging endeavours are the first thing she's ever done that have impressed me 😂. She's given me a few ideas.
Top marks Ange.

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Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:13

She’s such a fucking grifter I wish she wd get in her dingy and fuck off to the far side of fuck if

twistyizzy · 01/09/2025 21:14

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 21:13

Absolutely. Its certainly the most plausible explanation.

I have to say, her tax dodging endeavours are the first thing she's ever done that have impressed me 😂. She's given me a few ideas.
Top marks Ange.

🤣🤣

twistyizzy · 01/09/2025 21:14

Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:13

She’s such a fucking grifter I wish she wd get in her dingy and fuck off to the far side of fuck if

She could be the "1 out"

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 21:15

Parsley4321 · 01/09/2025 21:13

She’s such a fucking grifter I wish she wd get in her dingy and fuck off to the far side of fuck if

The French might pop it though 🤣

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menonprohibebis · 01/09/2025 21:16

TheNuthatch · 01/09/2025 21:13

Absolutely. Its certainly the most plausible explanation.

I have to say, her tax dodging endeavours are the first thing she's ever done that have impressed me 😂. She's given me a few ideas.
Top marks Ange.

Brilliant.

I suppose the writing was on the wall early doors, with her penchant for freebies from ME+EM etc.

Gotta admire her brass neck.

twistyizzy · 01/09/2025 21:16

Actually we could use the 1 in 1 out to deport Labour. Happily accept a few dozen refugees to replace Labour

twistyizzy · 01/09/2025 21:17

menonprohibebis · 01/09/2025 21:16

Brilliant.

I suppose the writing was on the wall early doors, with her penchant for freebies from ME+EM etc.

Gotta admire her brass neck.

She did nothing for the brand to be fair.

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