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So has WW3 just started?

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Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 22:30

I can’t believe I’m not seeing more threads on this. Starmer back israel against Iran. Other Muslim countries are supporting Iran.

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DrPrunesqualer · 15/06/2025 02:32

Livelovebehappy · 14/06/2025 23:08

Because stopping Iran having nuclear weapons is also in our best interests too. It’s naive to think by keeping quiet we will be buying our safety. Iran’s leadership is unhinged and dangerous and the more countries grouping together against them will make things better for us all long term.

Israel’s leadership is unhinged. I’m assuming you’ve been watching what’s going on in Gaza and they just attacked Iran
Israel has nuclear arms and has refused to sign the Treaty of Non proliferation of Nuclear Arms.
Does that sound like a leadership we should be following and agreeing with.

No one supports Israel because they are the good guys.

DrPrunesqualer · 15/06/2025 02:33

JellybeanQueen0105 · 15/06/2025 02:22

Stop it. The UK does not have air based nuclear weapons.

Educate yourself before getting all hysterical and inciting fear.

Was @Viviennemary talking about the UK ?

Swannsee · 15/06/2025 02:45

JellybeanQueen0105 · 15/06/2025 02:22

Stop it. The UK does not have air based nuclear weapons.

Educate yourself before getting all hysterical and inciting fear.

Inciting fear? People really need to think for themselves and not believe everything they see, read and hear

sassdunn · 15/06/2025 03:14

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 22:42

That’s good to know. Thanks.

Im hoping more than anything that I look back at this thread and can feel silly.

@Newsenmum
Please don't feel feel silly about posting this. It's a very real situation and it's scaring the life out of me at the moment. I'm sure others feel the same way too. We need to carry on regardless. Don't worry. It'll sort..

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 15/06/2025 03:23

I had to laugh at the Trump /Putin phone call and they both agreed the War between Israel and Iran has to stop.
If only that same logic was applied to the Ukraine war.

Givemethesun · 15/06/2025 03:43

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 22:42

That’s good to know. Thanks.

Im hoping more than anything that I look back at this thread and can feel silly.

I don’t think you need to worry about feeling silly. It’s a valid question to ask

sunshinestar1986 · 15/06/2025 04:46

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DickAhOn · 15/06/2025 05:25

DrPrunesqualer · 15/06/2025 02:32

Israel’s leadership is unhinged. I’m assuming you’ve been watching what’s going on in Gaza and they just attacked Iran
Israel has nuclear arms and has refused to sign the Treaty of Non proliferation of Nuclear Arms.
Does that sound like a leadership we should be following and agreeing with.

No one supports Israel because they are the good guys.

Iran is along the lines of North Korea. Look at how they treat their OWN people. Totally different.
Israel attacked Iran to prevent it obtaining nuclear weapons given that Iran represents an existential threat to Israel - they have openly stated their intent to wipe Israel of fthe map even though there is NO dispute with Israel, it's ideological for them. Iran is a force for evil in the region. Look at what they have done to Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq. They are willing to fight Israel to the very last Arab. We're seeing now very clearly that Iran has zero compunction at targeting civilian areas. I

DickAhOn · 15/06/2025 05:25

Iran is along the lines of North Korea. Look at how they treat their OWN people. Totally different.
Israel attacked Iran to prevent it obtaining nuclear weapons given that Iran represents an existential threat to Israel - they have openly stated their intent to wipe Israel of fthe map even though there is NO dispute with Israel, it's ideological for them. Iran is a force for evil in the region. Look at what they have done to Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq. They are willing to fight Israel to the very last Arab. We're seeing now very clearly that Iran has zero compunction at targeting civilian areas.

DickAhOn · 15/06/2025 05:28

JHound · 15/06/2025 02:00

My friend is Iranian and horrified at the Israeli bombs (including those that have hit near to residential areas where her family live in Tehran.
She is opposed both to the Iranian regime AND foreign aggression. I doubt she is alone in that.

My lovely Iranian friend is upset about the civilian casualties in both countries. Because she's a decent human being. She is shedding no tears over the deaths of the Iranian leadership and IRGC and says that many Iranians are very happy over what's happening (while others are in shock and scared).

DickAhOn · 15/06/2025 05:31

Gerbilboy · 14/06/2025 23:03

Errrr...Israel is bombing Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iran... And it's the one trying to prevent war?!

guess which country has funded the militias/armies attacking Israel from the first four of those countries?
it's just that until now Iran has preferred using its proxies to attack israel rather than an open conflict which they know they'll lose. As I've said, Iran has been willing to fight Israel until the last Arab...until now.

DickAhOn · 15/06/2025 05:35

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 22:30

I can’t believe I’m not seeing more threads on this. Starmer back israel against Iran. Other Muslim countries are supporting Iran.

Oh, you might find that many Muslim countries are VERY happy that Israel is doing this. Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, UAE, Saudi. They are all sick of Iran's meddling and the last thing they want is a nuclear Iran.

Etheral · 15/06/2025 05:58

No

Reddicchio · 15/06/2025 06:22

Livelovebehappy · 15/06/2025 00:29

This thread is actually about Israel’s attack on Iran, and Irans threat to retaliate. It isn’t about the Palestinian/Israel situation. You’re projecting. Do you really think Iran care about the Palestinians? That they’re doing this for the Palestinians? They will bomb Israel, and won’t care that the attack will probably also wipe out many Palestinian people. To Iran it will just be collateral damage. Iran treat their own people abysmally, so aren’t going to give a toss about the people in Gaza.

Iran is closely linked with the situation in the region. They fund Hamas and Hezbollah and want to wipe Israel of the face of the earth. They 'care' about Gaza and the Palestinians only in terms of how their ability to terrorise Israel and its citizens. Iran won't mind collateral damage, their aim is to destroy Israel and they support the 'free Palestine' cause to help with Iran's hostile attitude towards Israel.

Whether this is the beginning of WW3 or not is hard to say although since 9/11, ISIS and then Covid the world has changed beyond belief. There is a lot of hostility between regions and enemy states undermining each other using a range of underhanded methods, cyber attacks, influencing populations online, directing mass migration towards European member states, Russia and China are world leaders on this.

Israel wiping out Iran's nuclear facilities sounds like a good idea but naturally Iran retaliates and a this point in time it's anyone's guess what might happen next.

We live in unstable times. The news headlines are not great this week.

Chickenrun86 · 15/06/2025 06:34

thiswilloutme · 14/06/2025 22:35

Israel might just have prevented WW3 if they’ve taken out Iran’s nuclear weapon capability.

Why are israel allowed to have nuclear weapons but not Iran?

40weeksmummy · 15/06/2025 06:51

MushMonster · 15/06/2025 01:10

It is certainly very concerning. It does have a potential for WWIII, unfortunately.
Why? Because old alliances plus the transport of goods through Middle East, plus the price of petrol affecting far too many other countries for them to sit and do nothing.
Let's hope that it does not come to that, but we should keep an eye on the news.

I think UK should keep fully out of it. We should not allow US to drag us down into it. And I think Netanyahu will drag Trump into it. But why should UK risk the lives of any of our guys? Or even our equipment? To support a US that does not appreciate what UK has done in the past (the random country comment comes to mind), plus Netanyahu's government, which has several individuals sanctioned in UK.
They will try to get UK involved. Of that I have no doubt. Thinking of our guys on the ground, their families and the RAF personnel just sent over there. And praying it stops now and none of them gets any harm.

I don't understand this. We shouldn't feel bad because UK sent someone there.
Army is your life choice.
My husband was in professional army for few years. It's ARMY, not playground. If you are there-you should understand that you could be in real danger or even die at any time. This is the reason most of them leaving after wedding or kids born.

ThatLilacTiger · 15/06/2025 07:07

WW3 started in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea.

Blueblell · 15/06/2025 07:07

Israel has been trying to prevent Iran gaining nuclear weapons for a very long time so this is not new. I think many countries including many Muslim countries will be quietly relieved their nuclear program has been set back.

Poopeepoopee · 15/06/2025 07:19

Chickenrun86 · 15/06/2025 06:34

Why are israel allowed to have nuclear weapons but not Iran?

  1. Because Israel is a democracy and Iran is not and
  2. Israel is right in the middle of a world order all of whom call for the complete destruction of Israel. Of course they must have nuclear weapons and
  3. Who is going to stop Israel arming itself anyway?
QuiteUnbelievable · 15/06/2025 07:26

Hfox

Iran kills or allows women and children to be killed all the time and we don't know the true number because it's hard to report in what is essentially a giant prison camp with different levels depending on your sex.

If you're born female your absolutely fucked like in the other radically islamic countries.

OP I thought the same where are the chats about this. Of course people will be worried.

WhitegreeNcandle · 15/06/2025 07:30

QuiteUnbelievable · 15/06/2025 07:26

Hfox

Iran kills or allows women and children to be killed all the time and we don't know the true number because it's hard to report in what is essentially a giant prison camp with different levels depending on your sex.

If you're born female your absolutely fucked like in the other radically islamic countries.

OP I thought the same where are the chats about this. Of course people will be worried.

I agree OP. Quite surprised there are no more threads on this. Also quite surprised by people being so ok with Iran having nuclear weapons when their stated aim is to destroy Israel. Where do people think they’ll go after Israel?

Bepo77 · 15/06/2025 07:30

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 22:39

Absolutely not. I’m just quite surprised at the lack of concern in what feel like really concerning activities. I don’t personally want the UK to be dragged into a war but each to their own.

Out of interest how did you get on during the Iraq war?

Birdsinginginthetrees · 15/06/2025 07:32

rriffraff · 14/06/2025 22:48

A significant portion of the population of Iran does not support the Islamic Republic. One study indicated that 81% of Iranians currently residing in Iran do not support the current Islamic Republic.
Hopefully they can get their freedom back out of this. It would be a better, safer world.

This is what I’m hoping. If you look at photos of Iran before the regime took over, you will see it was a completely different country. People enjoyed freedom. Women were not oppressed and could wear what they wanted.

elfendom · 15/06/2025 07:32

Poopeepoopee · 15/06/2025 07:19

  1. Because Israel is a democracy and Iran is not and
  2. Israel is right in the middle of a world order all of whom call for the complete destruction of Israel. Of course they must have nuclear weapons and
  3. Who is going to stop Israel arming itself anyway?

This does not answer the question.

QuiteUnbelievable · 15/06/2025 07:40

People are so rude if you don't like a thread why waste the time to comment on it.
Helpful responses explaining why op shouldn't be worry are good but why bother to post snippy responses??