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Has the US crossed the Rubicon? - Trump thread #142

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Spandauer · 15/04/2025 18:42

Here be dragons.

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Has the US crossed the Rubicon? - Trump thread #142
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Spandauer · 25/04/2025 17:08

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JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:10

SerendipityJane · 25/04/2025 13:52

You can imagine this was how Trump won the nomination

OMG that's Bingo Bob! Grin
Yeah, I need to add Veep to the list of shows to watch don't I?

Very similar JFK chosing LBJ - "It doesn't matter... I'm 43, I'm not going to die in office."
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AcrossthePond55 · 25/04/2025 17:11

Igotjelly · 25/04/2025 16:51

How is it feeling in the US? It’s hard to know how much of it is UK media hyperbole.

It's a huge country. I'm sure there are many who are jubilant that we're now on 'the right track'. My cousin married a German gal back in the 70s and said until the day he died her father said "What Germany needs is another Hitler" so there are bastards and lunatics everywhere and in every time.

As far as the people I associate with and the news I watch, feelings range from despair to dogged determination to extreme anger to hope & belief that we'll get through this. I tend to swing from one to the other. We protest and donate, but I think so many of us see Scrotus et al simply ignoring the protests, the law, and court orders and doing what they want. And we wonder what, if anything, will actually stop them. I expect that many in Germany in the '30s felt the same way.

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PerkingFaintly · 25/04/2025 17:11

AcrossthePond55 · 25/04/2025 16:56

Without saying too much, we live in an agricultural area. Tentative plans have been made.

Yes, don't say any more. Flowers

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:13

TulipTiptoer · 25/04/2025 16:15

Yes, it just makes you wonder, what the actual F is going to happen next?

On another note... will Trump and Melania cope with not being the centre of attention tomorrow at Pope Francis's funeral. He really is not a big fish given the occasion. Also, he's not good at sitting through funerals, he always looks bored rigid, and apparently this will be a loooooong one

BBC said he'll be sitting between Heads of State of Eswatini and Ethiopia.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/04/2025 17:15

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:13

BBC said he'll be sitting between Heads of State of Eswatini and Ethiopia.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Better yet, let him be surrounded on all sides by people who don't speak English.

Oh, and let whoever is representing Canada, UK, France, & Germany be seated at least 5 rows in front of him.

TulipTiptoer · 25/04/2025 17:16

I hope he's in a back row somewhere! I wonder if Melania will wear that lace thing over her head she wore last time when she met the Pope.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/04/2025 17:19

TulipTiptoer · 25/04/2025 17:16

I hope he's in a back row somewhere! I wonder if Melania will wear that lace thing over her head she wore last time when she met the Pope.

I guess she was raised Catholic so I assume she'll wear some kind of head covering and enjoy imagining that it's widow's weeds.

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:21

AcrossthePond55 · 25/04/2025 17:19

I guess she was raised Catholic so I assume she'll wear some kind of head covering and enjoy imagining that it's widow's weeds.

Excellent way to hide earbuds too...Blush

More info on seating arrangements:
^Dignitaries will sit on the the right-hand side of the square - facing the Basilica - with the heads of state for Argentina and Italy taking the front seats.
This will be followed by reigning sovereigns followed by heads of states who will be seated in alphabetical order by country, in French.^

Etats Unis. Grin

DuncinToffee · 25/04/2025 17:24

Starmer will be relieved Grin

CaveMum · 25/04/2025 17:30

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:10

OMG that's Bingo Bob! Grin
Yeah, I need to add Veep to the list of shows to watch don't I?

Very similar JFK chosing LBJ - "It doesn't matter... I'm 43, I'm not going to die in office."
21mins in

Yay for Bingo Bob!

Have you listened to the West Wing Weekly podcast? It ran a few years ago, through part of Trump 1.0 so there a lot of comparisons to TWW and Trump! Lots of cast/writer interviews too so I’d highly recommend it if you haven’t listened before.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/04/2025 17:32

For those interested:

https://www.reuters.com/world/seating-plan-popes-funeral-its-complicated-or-compliqu-2025-04-25/

They use French, which explains why the US is seated with the 'E's. Royalty is seated before 'Heads of State' so the PoW will be before them. The rest according to French translation.

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I've been trying to recall my High School French. I remember Allemagne, Le Canada & La France (DUH!), but can't remember what the UK is 'formally' called in French. Le Royaume-Uni?

Igotjelly · 25/04/2025 17:40

Of course Trump sees himself as akin to royalty….

DuncinToffee · 25/04/2025 17:42

He would still have to sit behind Catholic royalty.......

DuncinToffee · 25/04/2025 17:42

George Santos sentenced to 87 months in prison

SerendipityJane · 25/04/2025 17:43

Yeah, I need to add Veep to the list of shows to watch don't I?

Why would you want to watch a 3rd rate pale imitation of the past 3 months ?

Igotjelly · 25/04/2025 17:45

SerendipityJane · 25/04/2025 17:43

Yeah, I need to add Veep to the list of shows to watch don't I?

Why would you want to watch a 3rd rate pale imitation of the past 3 months ?

Honestly I was thinking the other day of what we’re living now had been a TV show I would have been annoyed with how unrealistic it is!

RafaistheKingofClay · 25/04/2025 17:46

DuncinToffee · 25/04/2025 17:42

He would still have to sit behind Catholic royalty.......

I think the Vatican have said they won’t be prioritising Catholic royalty over non-Catholic. Poor Eswatini and Ethiopia.

Biden is going too. That’ll stick in Trump’s throat except there will be boasting that he got priority seating over Biden.

SerendipityJane · 25/04/2025 17:47

Igotjelly · 25/04/2025 17:45

Honestly I was thinking the other day of what we’re living now had been a TV show I would have been annoyed with how unrealistic it is!

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JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:47

@CaveMum Yup. I listen to them while I'm watching TV with DH.
Did you see the pic of Marine One on there (ep 6.01)? I can't ever not read it wrong now. Grin

Spandauer · 25/04/2025 17:49

Wouldn't it be great if Joe was sat further forward than His Orangeness, being a devout Catholic and all.

Former U.S. President Joe Biden, who has been the target of constant criticism by Trump, is attending the funeral, but will not be part of the official U.S. delegation, a diplomatic source said. This means Biden, a lifelong Catholic, should be sitting further back, with other VIPs.

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RafaistheKingofClay · 25/04/2025 17:55

I really hope my TV does not feature too much orange tomorrow morning.

JoshLymanSwagger · 25/04/2025 17:55

At least Joe is saved the indignity of having to babysit the 🍊

RafaistheKingofClay · 25/04/2025 18:05

And Zelensky shouldn’t be anywhere near him.

DuncinToffee · 25/04/2025 18:11

Hope this is true

NEWS: After canceling thousands of foreign students' immigration records — threatening their ability to study and live in the US — the Trump administration has reversed course and restored them all.

It follows intense pushback from courts across the country.

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