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Thread 9 Starmer : Return to Westminster

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DuncinToffee · 02/10/2024 16:58

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5169266-thread-8-starmer-cat-fur-on-new-clothes?page=40&reply=138729672

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SerendipityJane · 04/10/2024 09:56

Personally whenever I hear one party attack another, I assume they are both guilty and it cancels out.

I'm not, nor have ever been, a very good subject.

MaybeNotBob · 04/10/2024 10:15

Current status of the Tories blame game of the Chagos Islands...

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newnamethanks · 04/10/2024 11:37

Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's all the fault of Jeremy Corbyn, remember him? And 🍺 and company as well. Think that's covered it.

PickAChew · 04/10/2024 11:39

Sir, Sir, it woznt me wot did it, sir, it woz 'im.

countrygirl99 · 04/10/2024 14:10

A big boy did it and ran away

Zonder · 04/10/2024 14:14

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2024 21:17

I've got my appointment through for neurology after being referred last week.

Anyone want to hazard a guess when it is?!

Have we found out yet? If not I'm guessing March.

Notonthestairs · 04/10/2024 15:46

Worth reading to the end-

There seems to be significant faux outrage from Tory leadership candidates Cleverly and Tugendhat about the Starmer government’s transfer of the Chagos islands to Mauritius.

Official sources tell me the transfer would have happened in materially the same
way at roughly the same time if Sunak had somehow won the election.

The point is that the transfer was being negotiated on the recent Tory government’s watch - including by Cleverly as foreign secretary and then by Cameron - and the deadline was in effect set by Washington.

I am told that President Biden wanted the deal done before the 5 November presidential election. Biden wanted certainty about the future of the US military base on the Chagossian island of Diego Garcia, just in case Donald Trump were to win the election.

For confirmation that the deal was clinched on a timetable and in a style to suit the US administration, see Biden’s statement that “it is a clear demonstration that through diplomacy and partnership, countries can overcome longstanding historical challenges to reach peaceful and mutually beneficial outcomes”.

Biden pointed out that the agreement between the UK and Mauritius meant the US had secured “the effective operation of the joint [military] facility on Diego Garcia into the next century.”

It is therefore curious Tugendhat should describe the transfer as “leaving our allies” exposed when the UK’s most important ally, America, has welcomed it.

And Cleverly’s denigration of Starmer as “weak, weak, weak” for formalising it seems eccentric when the negotiations with Mauritius were in full swing when he was in the cabinet.

As for Liz Truss’s assertion that Boris Johnson is to blame, I am told that Johnson was the last PM to wholly oppose giving up sovereignty over Chagos, and that the talks did not start properly till she was PM.

If anyone in the Tory party wants to know the nitty gritty of all this, possibly they could ask for an introduction from the former minister Lord Frost - because his spouse Harriet Matthews has been the lead official negotiator for the foreign office on the Chagos treaty with Mauritius.

https://x.com/peston/status/1842198611653730376?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

itsgettingweird · 04/10/2024 16:08

My appointment was actually for April 2025. I'm impressed it's so soon - which in itself is worrying! Not it being soon (as it isn't really!) but more I'm surprised it wasn't 2026!!!!

Had to change it though as it's the day I'm on my reaccreditation for work for the training I do (what's the odds it would be the same day).

itsgettingweird · 04/10/2024 16:09

Piggywaspushed · 04/10/2024 08:21

Is this like a sweepstake? Do we get a prize if we were right?

I went June because my original gallbladder consultation was meant to be April 25.

Should have gone April - you'd have won 😂😂

itsgettingweird · 04/10/2024 16:12

Notonthestairs** thanks for posting that. It's very interesting. And a huge reminder and evidence that what's said never reflects reality.

Piggywaspushed · 04/10/2024 16:13

itsgettingweird · 04/10/2024 16:09

Should have gone April - you'd have won 😂😂

Tarnation!

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2024 17:08

www.private-eye.co.uk/in-the-back

Another Covid-era scandal emerges: Excalibur Healthcare, once awarded £160m in Covid contracts, has collapsed into liquidation with £22m owed to the taxpayer.

Shady dealings, unpaid bills, and failed deliveries of PPE and ventilators expose another chapter of Covid-era profiteering.

Investigations by HMRC and forensic accountants are underway.

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Evenstar · 04/10/2024 17:10

Loving this cartoon in the Independent

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Evenstar · 04/10/2024 17:10

Double cat tax

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SerendipityJane · 04/10/2024 17:27

Evenstar · 04/10/2024 17:10

Loving this cartoon in the Independent

It's not really very appropriate thought. As things stand the Good Ship Tory is 2 miles below the surface stuck at the bottom of the sea and going nowhere.

They have pissed away an entire week without managing to realise why they lost once. It must have been painful to watch for the few that did.

They lost 240 MPs in July. To quote "Snatch" - "It's hardly a set of car keys is it ?"

BustingBaoBun · 04/10/2024 17:34

Whilst we're on the subject of cats, Larry the cat has tweeted this...
I desperately need a copy of Boris Johnson's book; my litter tray hasn't been changed in days...

CassieMaddox · 04/10/2024 17:39

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2024 17:08

www.private-eye.co.uk/in-the-back

Another Covid-era scandal emerges: Excalibur Healthcare, once awarded £160m in Covid contracts, has collapsed into liquidation with £22m owed to the taxpayer.

Shady dealings, unpaid bills, and failed deliveries of PPE and ventilators expose another chapter of Covid-era profiteering.

Investigations by HMRC and forensic accountants are underway.

Oh dear

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/16/five-tory-mps-peers-referred-firms-controversial-vip-lane-covid

Matt Hancock - The former health secretary made four referrals of companies that were fast-tracked and successfully won contracts. He has said he considered them credible offers. One of them was Excalibur Healthcare, which won £135.4m in contracts.

They look quite dodge on companies house. Registered in Isle of Man, not filed accounts on time. I'm just a random interested party though so it could mean nothing

Five Tory MPs and peers who referred firms to controversial VIP lane

A number of Conservatives made referrals for firms that won Covid contracts, leaked document shows

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/16/five-tory-mps-peers-referred-firms-controversial-vip-lane-covid

isthereaway · 04/10/2024 17:40

Found you. Thanks for thread.

PickAChew · 04/10/2024 17:48

I'm sure Matt Hancock is sorry, not sorry, just like Boris is over partygate.

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2024 17:51

PickAChew · 04/10/2024 17:48

I'm sure Matt Hancock is sorry, not sorry, just like Boris is over partygate.

Johnson is sorry about his apology

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1842234214076268907

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Llttledrummergirl · 04/10/2024 18:13

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2024 17:08

www.private-eye.co.uk/in-the-back

Another Covid-era scandal emerges: Excalibur Healthcare, once awarded £160m in Covid contracts, has collapsed into liquidation with £22m owed to the taxpayer.

Shady dealings, unpaid bills, and failed deliveries of PPE and ventilators expose another chapter of Covid-era profiteering.

Investigations by HMRC and forensic accountants are underway.

I'll bet the directors were well paid. Maybe they could find the missing £22m plus change in their bank accounts.

newnamethanks · 04/10/2024 18:39

The Blond Beast is being interviewed on itv at 7.30 if anyone is interested. I don't think I can manage a whole one, no appetite for it at all.

newnamethanks · 04/10/2024 19:00

7pm, it transpires. O how I hate him.

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2024 19:20

Would I lie to you is on at 8pm

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cardibach · 04/10/2024 19:21

I’m watching it. It’s self justifying crap. I’m swearing a lot.

In other news my shingles has flared up in my actual eyeball. Bastard little virus. Back on the antivirals, with added eye gel.

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