Thread 8 Starmer : Cat fur on new clothes

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More babies is the answer! According to another bin escapee!

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1841084734857769051

Miriam Cates(Tory) says we need to increase the birth rate so we can cut immigration.... or we'll end up like Japan. Jo Coburn: This will take 20 years, it's not going to solve the problem now.

Does Cates ever relate the falling birth rate to the cost of living (particularly housing), Austerity ravaged public services, and a flatlining economy?

It seems very Republican in outlook - please pump out the babies (but we don't care what happens to them after that).

That’s what Lewis Goodall said on The News Agents.

Breeding for Britain was trending on twitter yesterday

Ah. Miriam Cates - who was on Radio 5 explaining that whatever Kemi seemed to have said, she didn't mean it. 🙄

Surprised we aren’t all already breeding for Britain given the excessive maternity pay.

Just out of interest, how many nazi policies would an individual or party need to advocate before you could safely not fall foul of Godwin’slaw by mentioning it?

How many of the Johnson and Rees Mogg brood can we expect to work as carers?

We could call it, oh, I don't know "Battle for births" maybe ?

https://x.com/jessicaelgot/status/1841096877418107172

New Ipsos poll finds two thirds of voters (64%) do not care who becomes Tory leader. It includes almost a third (32%) of those who voted Conservative in July. Starmer leads Badenoch by 25 points, Cleverly by 21 points, Jenrick by 22 points, and Tugendhat by 22 points.

poor Tory HQ. They can make as much noise as they like about Starmer being unpopular but he’s still more popular than all of their candidates.

😂

Robert Jenrick: "If I was lucky enough to lead this party... Boris, Penny Mordaunt, Andy Street, you name it... let's get the conservative family back together, let's get back in business again."

So a party literally made of rejects then ?

He isn't thinking, let alone thinking this through.

Please remind a certain poster who’s constantly wittering on about polls.

Doesn't he mean getting The Five Families back together?

I thought there were 6 families now. Or maybe even more.

More like "getting the band back together" ... I wonder how many tickets they will sell. Also who will take up the drummers seat ? As we all know, you can't dust for vomit.

They could open with Boris on lead vocals doing "Sex Farm".

https://x.com/PickardJE/status/1841111548611195387

Robert Jenrick at Tory conference: “one in six of our voters won’t be alive at the next election….no one in this hall of course”

Not sure if he’s threatening the Tory membership here.

Well Trump has already threatened Jews and Catholics that they will be the ones to be blamed if he loses. This seems a more British approach to the idea.

An idea it's hard to argue hasn't been spat out by an LLM that has just got up to 1923 or so.

Incidentally, ever since I read about Trumps address to the Jewish community, it immediately reminded me of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulston_Street_graffito

(Which is a testament to my odd reading habits when young) ... it does seem a very slight echo.

There's so much truth in this.

The extreme RE conservative voters have been lost by the conservatives as they aren't Raw enough for them. They've gone to reform.

And I agree I don't think anything the Tory's do or say now will encourage most of them back.

If anything they'll lose more and that'll be detrimental to getting rid of reform.

People are losing interest in voting. Very soon the party in power will only ever be the least bad but nothing will be positive because everything will always be picked up on as bad.

Negativity breeds

I've found out this afternoon that Robert Jenrick has a daughter whose middle name is Thatcher. Finding this out amused me.

That’s brilliant 😂

Miriam Cates, yet another golden girl of the FWR board… she who thinks women don’t necessarily need an education, especially not a university one and need to have more children.

And started the trope about cultural Marxism (dogwhistle for anti semitism). These lot are so enmeshed with the US Christian alt right it’s unbelievable.

Noooooooo! What an utter plank he is.

It's only hypocrisy if you aren't a Tory, Cleverly:

https://x.com/maitlis/status/1841124913286934879

“ I will accept gifts from time to time - the problem is not the gifts. It’s the stench of hypocrisy .. “