Thread 51 Sunak: A William Hill to die on

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Do you think it’s the polite way of saying “I don’t want to vote Labour”? Or “I don’t want to talk politics on the doorstep”?

@Saucery not from what DH and the other canvassers are hearing, they definitely don’t want the Tories but seem unable to commit. One woman was talking about voting Green, but unless you want the Tory MP to get in again that’s pointless in this constituency. She worked at a school and was very aware of how bad things are with overstretched budgets and a lack of resources.

Familiar vibes, seen similar scrips before

Actually a crime question first on QT. Which is a good change.

We're doing Lib Dem lifts on polling day and my husband has been out leafleting for Labour in a nearby constituency where they have a real chance of winning.

At my nieces and nephews VIth form hustings the Tory MP with a majority of over 24,000 didn't bother turning up.

Is he smug or just giving up?

Loved that. He’s missed the bit where the dodgy builder has given all my money to his mates though and got nothing in return.

According to electoral calculus my redrawn constituency has a 96% chance of becoming Labour after seventy years of most of the constituency being Tory not sure I totally believe those percentages.

Do electoral calculus, run the numbers from opinion polls to first give then a number of seats and then try and map that onto constituencies, rather than an MRP which tries to get a constituency by constituency result and then count up the number of MPs?

And bought the screws for the cabinets from his bar manager for half the quality at double the price and being thanked with a substantial cash bonus.

The young people on question time are brilliant so far.

And the cabinets and doors weren’t stored properly so he had to burn them.

I am watching 'Can AI steal your vote' on C4

Question...is it OK to not actively despise Andrew Mitchell? Asking for a friend.

Once upon a time he was minor league Tory. A rude, jumped-up patronising twunt, but essentially harmless Tory. That he has reached the elevated heights of “not actually despicable” shows how low they have sunk.

@Piggywaspushed I recently read Rory Stewart’s book Politics on the Edge, and he seemed to think well of him and felt he had been unfairly maligned (indeed he was cleared eventually over Plebgate) I think he speaks clearly and at least listens to his opponents.

This QT is a breath of fresh air thus far. Well done Birmingham.

It’s nice to see a civilised discussion.

Isn’t it just, no shouting or petulance.

I read that too and did vaguely remember that.

Ha! How very true.

Also watching QT. It really is quite refreshing.

I think this is making me appreciate, despite many valid concerns about her, how good Fiona Bruce is at controlling relevance, steering conversation and challenging partisans robustly.

Possibly because there's a shortage of public schoolboys on the panel? We plebs like to teach our children how to behave in public and respect other people.

Given what we now know of the local Metropolitan Police station and their so-called banter, I am a bit more inclined to believe Andrew Mitchell, even though I object to the policies and party he is a part of.

Fiona Bruce is now interrupting everyone on the immigration question. Cooper and Moran several times, Mitchell once and Flynn once. Now it ends.

Yes, the panel aren't a a bunch of braying toffs, tis true.