Thread 50 Sunak: Civil war, what civil war?

[DuncinToffee]

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Just over 2 weeks to go

Johnson found a crumb of integrity down the side of the sofa cushion then.

That was a chunk of self-interest disguised as integrity. Still, neither of them are Jeremy Corbyn so our sceptred isle remains safe from the socialist threat. Phew!

Love it. There should be one in every town and city!

I make it 10 days to go? Another leaders debate on Wednesday. Can it get any worse for the tories? I reckon it can . And to think Sunak wanted one of them every week! I bet Keirs kicking himself he didn't take him up on that! 😂😂

This honestly feels like the longest election in history at this point.

The Syndicate's knees are knocking. Maybe we should also have a sweepstake on election results? Or on what the eventual number of those involved in the Number 10 betting shock (shock? As if. I'd be more surprised if they hadn't been poised to exploit any and every opportunity that had a £ sign attached to it. Its what they're for). I'm calling more than 10. Faites vos jeux.

This is madness isn't it? Suppressing numbers of people using public transport.

"Scoop: HS2 cancellation will mean fares increase between London and the north to reduce travellers amid capacity problems.

There will be 8% fewer seats on future trains after the high-speed line was scrapped, and prices are set to go up to reduce demand"

x.com/bengartside/status/1804950585919091180?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Another problem for the Shit List.

This election feels like the longest ever so I looked up the lengths of the last two - roughly the same! It doesn’t feel like it.

The last full week of the Tories being in charge.

I think I am nervous.

Alastair Campbell has been saying he thinks there is something wrong with the polls. Perhaps he is just trying to make sure the electorate doesn't become complacent?
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2024/06/20/alastair-campbell-casts-doubt-on-uk-opinion-polls.html

So many people are saying that!

Alastair Campbell has never wavered from saying he’s not confident of a win - even way before this election was called. I know how he feels, possibly he’s just nervous of something going wrong.

I think the Labour fear is that people won’t bother to vote thinking a victory for Labour is guaranteed and their messaging is changing to get the vote out.

I didn't know that @BestIsWest . He is making me nervous too!

Oh, I'm sure we'll see something. But I bet Sunk has insisted on being able to cherry-pick the questions he will answer. If anyone asked for his views on Labour's tax plans, that will be top of the list.

I do think the polls are just a snapshot in time. My family members - are very disgruntled with the Conservatives, won't consider Labour (ever) and Reform dont match their views (or Farage is too much of a turn off).
They've made noises of voting Green but I suspect when push comes to shove they will vote Conservative again. I imagine that will be replicated all over.

Plus despite the obvious gibberish of the 'super majority' nonsense - I think that has cut through. I've tried explaining that twice this weekend and they may as well have stuck their fingers in their ears. Its seems like an excuse to stick with what they know.

If Reform gets any sort of presence in Parliament, am I right in thinking they will be expected to do their share of the hard graft in committees etc? It's blatantly obvious that Farage will never do any of that, not least because there's no opportunity for showboating in front of the cameras. Could be interesting.

I think the Labour fear is that people won’t bother to vote thinking a victory for Labour is guaranteed and their messaging is changing to get the vote out.

Our Labour candidate came up my garden path whilst I was sitting out there on Saturday evening. (Canvassing at 8.45pm on a sunny June Saturday - the dedication!)

He was completely insistent that nothing is a given and that people must vote. He kept saying, 'It's such a close thing' and 'Every vote matters'. It was as though it had been drummed into him.

Oooh the questions for Sunak thread is back...

It was the point Bridget Philipson was hammering home on LK yesterday. There’s still obviously trepidation in the Labour Party. Which is a good thing.

Did anyone listen to Chris Heaton-Harris on R4today. Apparently it was a car crash. Will need to check catch up.

He sounded like he was sweating buckets

Just listened. God that was painful.

What time was he on? I can’t bear to listen to all three hours of it.

It's locked now, not taking new messages

Hahahaha as if.

DM has turned against Farge, so Johnson followed suit more likely.

Anyone else notice losts of new posters bumping the Reform threads in praise of nige?

Here is a clip, well done Mishal Husain

x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1805142013664186390

Dominic Cummings was always saying the same and I think I posted about the politicos on R4 explaining it is akin to market fixing, and paid for by the parties largely. It is meant to guide and encourage rather than reflect reality from what I can tell.

Thank you Duncin.