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Thread 50 Sunak: Civil war, what civil war?

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DuncinToffee · 19/06/2024 18:36

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Scruffily · 24/06/2024 19:04

Apparently at a recent local hustings on education issues, the Conservative candidate expressed his caring concern about a named local school that needed more money for SEN provision.

Unfortunately it turned out that it was a private school.
😂

Lottelenya · 24/06/2024 19:06

I wonder if some of the ladies over on FWR board who hate Labour will be voting for the Communist party of GB seeing as JK Rowling is considering it ? So much for the ‘only the tories know what a woman is’. And I guess if you’re a lefty it’s far more palatable. Might suggest it 😂

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 19:07

pointythings · 24/06/2024 19:02

But what about the People's Front of Judea?

😂 It is a bit.

Turns out there are 2 communist parties of Britain and 2 communist parties of Great Britain.

Edit: We’re going to need a new thread in a bit.

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:07

It's hilarious.

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:08

It's entirely possible I was looking at the wrong website and found Woke Commies.

bombastix · 24/06/2024 19:09

I think it is hard to imagine just how bad the NHS is. But A&E is just as it is portrayed.

You have to see it to believe it; people propped up in chairs, doped up if they seem pushy, often in pain if not. Consultations done in front of everyone, zero privacy. You could be there for days if you could manage it; and even then there are a team of doctors looking to discharge saying that people would get urgent appointments. That was an effective lie; a lot of people were in A&E because they had been waiting for these appointments that had not come, and they were very ill. The frontline staff were tying hard but there were just too many people, and too many had just not been seen by hospitals as out patients. There were also a lot of diabetes patients and older patients who were not emergencies but they needed care. Presumably they were not getting it on time but the effect is dire. It is not just about resources but people not being sent to A&E. Actual emergency treatment is being missed; one patient had been admitted for a stroke, did not see a doctor. He had a stroke on the floor of A&E while a pushier diabetes patient was seen. There are massive problems on management and assessing clinical need. It is not the staff, but they need a lot of help to manage the huge numbers of people who could wait for those who really can’t.

SerendipityJane · 24/06/2024 19:11

bombastix · 24/06/2024 19:09

I think it is hard to imagine just how bad the NHS is. But A&E is just as it is portrayed.

You have to see it to believe it; people propped up in chairs, doped up if they seem pushy, often in pain if not. Consultations done in front of everyone, zero privacy. You could be there for days if you could manage it; and even then there are a team of doctors looking to discharge saying that people would get urgent appointments. That was an effective lie; a lot of people were in A&E because they had been waiting for these appointments that had not come, and they were very ill. The frontline staff were tying hard but there were just too many people, and too many had just not been seen by hospitals as out patients. There were also a lot of diabetes patients and older patients who were not emergencies but they needed care. Presumably they were not getting it on time but the effect is dire. It is not just about resources but people not being sent to A&E. Actual emergency treatment is being missed; one patient had been admitted for a stroke, did not see a doctor. He had a stroke on the floor of A&E while a pushier diabetes patient was seen. There are massive problems on management and assessing clinical need. It is not the staff, but they need a lot of help to manage the huge numbers of people who could wait for those who really can’t.

So the plan is working then. Huzzah ! Trebles all round.

If there is one thing worse than poor people, it's ill poor people.

Cheguevarahamster · 24/06/2024 19:13

Scruffily · 24/06/2024 19:04

Apparently at a recent local hustings on education issues, the Conservative candidate expressed his caring concern about a named local school that needed more money for SEN provision.

Unfortunately it turned out that it was a private school.
😂

Another Reform candidate.Didn't go down well😲 with the locals. https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/24407670.reform-uk-salisbury-candidate-says-putin-seemed-good/

Salisbury's Reform UK candidate booed for telling crowd Putin 'seemed very good'

Reform UK candidate Julian Malins KC said he met the president of Russia.

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/24407670.reform-uk-salisbury-candidate-says-putin-seemed-good

SerendipityJane · 24/06/2024 19:18

Cheguevarahamster · 24/06/2024 19:13

Another Reform candidate.Didn't go down well😲 with the locals. https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/24407670.reform-uk-salisbury-candidate-says-putin-seemed-good/

I think I am going to move into my neighbours garden and get Mr Malins KC come round and negotiate it so I get to keep it. They've been provoking me forever with something I can probably make up while he's driving here.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 19:22

Going to Salisbury and telling them how good Putin is perhaps a little tone deaf.

Although I see the excuse for Farage’s comments is that he was saying he admired the way he runs the country not him as a person. Presumably he thinks murdering the opposition and any dissenting voices is not an issue.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2024 19:26

Lottelenya · 24/06/2024 19:06

I wonder if some of the ladies over on FWR board who hate Labour will be voting for the Communist party of GB seeing as JK Rowling is considering it ? So much for the ‘only the tories know what a woman is’. And I guess if you’re a lefty it’s far more palatable. Might suggest it 😂

Already done it. 😂

They’ve ignored it. We just got. Reform leaflet through the door. I felt a bit grubby after I put it straight in the recycling.

CassieMaddox · 24/06/2024 19:27

Literally they don't care.
I'm almost as disappointed by the fall of FWR as I am by brexit 😞

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:27

I want them to come because I enjoy chasing them down the road to give their leaflets back.

Lottelenya · 24/06/2024 19:28

This sounds really weird but back in the day (pre Covid) our ITU consultants were exceptionally good at selecting who would benefit from Crit care. Obviously not an easy decision when the relatives and occasionally the patients were really up for it without knowing how brutal ITU care can be.
Post Covid we’ve merged with high dependency and the number of inappropriate admissions is mind boggling. It does seem that there’s a reluctance to call it a day on ‘life saving’ care. Is this coming from an unconscious sense of guilt due to pandemic trauma, who knows ?
Also noticed a reluctance of junior docs especially to really interact with patients. Get to know them etc. During the pandemic ward rounds were done in the staff room rather than at the bed side for obvious reasons. To this day they still do this which is very problematic for nursing staff. They fail to communicate things from the WR like stat doses of antibiotics. There’s now a real them and us situation whereas back in the day we were all very respectful of our different roles. I’ve worked in crit care >25 years but with some docs this means very little. Again something I’ve picked up on although I know it doesn’t directly explain or excuse poor care.

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:28

Reform that is!

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:29

There is a , thus far, quite unacrimonious and rather amusing thread on the Communists in the GE board.

BIossomtoes · 24/06/2024 19:29

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:27

I want them to come because I enjoy chasing them down the road to give their leaflets back.

They snuck it through the letterbox when we weren’t looking. It was squatting on the doormat when I went upstairs.

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:33

Squatting is an excellent word choice what with its double meaning.

LlynTegid · 24/06/2024 19:35

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 19:22

Going to Salisbury and telling them how good Putin is perhaps a little tone deaf.

Although I see the excuse for Farage’s comments is that he was saying he admired the way he runs the country not him as a person. Presumably he thinks murdering the opposition and any dissenting voices is not an issue.

Until the invasion of Ukraine, Boris Johnson was just as much an appeaser or supporter of Russia much more than Nigel Farage. A peerage to the son of a KGB agent.

Indeed Alexander would have used his first name in public were he not so sympathetic to Russia.

prettybird · 24/06/2024 19:38

Are we needing a new thread? We're fast approaching the 1,000 mark again

I've got my cat tax ready Smile

Cheguevarahamster · 24/06/2024 19:43

I need to get cat tax ready. Proposed new title,
Sunak: all bets are off.
Sunak: A William Hill to die on
Sunak: The Tories (sponsored by Paddy Power)

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 19:44

I love all those!

placemats · 24/06/2024 19:46

I've been out campaigning at railway stations, think no HS2 for our part of the country and rising fares.

Sunak, end of the line?

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 19:47

All of those are great. @DuncinToffee may be watching the football in a minute though.

TaraTories · 24/06/2024 19:54

I've gone a bit Taylor (post sunny dog walk and her album)
Sunak: The Swift End of an Era

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