Eleanor Williams gets 8 years

[YNK]

Is this the right length of sentence to reflect the damage done?

Yes

Who

yes, she deserves it

Eleanor Williams jailed for eight and a half years after rape and trafficking lies
Twenty-two-year-old from Barrow posted photos on Facebook falsely claiming she had been abused

What she did was awful, but I’d like to see rapists treated with the same amount of public disgust and the same sentences. They won’t, though.

She also claimed to have been attacked but actually injured herself with a hammer

She did a terrible thing, those men were broken by what she did and a community attacked by far right thugs. Length of sentence was about right imo. Although I do wonder what was going on with her to make her do it.

Not long enough.

This. One of the guys tried to end his life from what I recall and the Asian family were treated awfully because of her and her lies.

My heart really aches for the victims she accused. Their lives in turmoil! Not long enough.

Yea she should have been sentenced.

However I can't help wondering if she required MH support rather than prison - but I'm sure (hope) all that was explored thoroughly during investigation.

I feel most sorry for the victims of her crime who she accused of being perpetrators. Sometimes they will never be forgiven even if proven innocent.

Some of those men attempted suicide over what she did. Their lives and their families lives are in tatters. Plus she will increase doubt over true cases. I think she should have had longer!

Rape carries a maximum life sentence, starting point is 5 years. Rapists are treated as pariahs in prison. This woman ruined lives.

This in spades.

The police resources dedicated to this and her previous case must be staggering!

I'm unable to get my head around this whole case.

@RiktheButler Rape also ruins lives @RiktheButler. Most rapists never even get charged, much less prosecuted. There are many more rapists walking around than there are men who have been convicted of a rape they didn't commit.

That said, I'm really glad justice has been done here, my heart goes out to these men and hope they can rebuild their shattered lives.

Of course she should receive time however sentencing needs to be looked at in this country.

Some of the grooming gang members got less time then this. Pakistani men who are proven to have abused numerous girls, many of whom showed a complete contempt for UK law and the victims during proceedings.

Rape has pretty much been decriminalised in this country. I would like to see rapists treated as harshly.

I can't begin to imagine the situation for those accused or their families.
I think 8 years is a decent tariff, but, I really hope they give her some mental health support and help to find out why she did it etc.

Apparently she's been making up damaging allegations since she was 16? It was also quite telling what the judge said about her not having shown much remorse.

She needs to be in a secure psychiatric facility.

It was all a shit show. No doubt there will now be a big inquiry into things went so far, everyone will be reviewing their procedures, and deputy heads will roll.

She just made it even harder for those who have been raped to get justice - at a time if all time low conviction rates

it also raises the question of anonymity for those suspected of rape - but this will affect cases where identifying the suspect helps others come forward - although people have a way of finding out about suspects. I hope the men get some apologies and some closure

She has done irreparable damage

Agreed.

Should have been longer.

I can’t get over the fact she smacked herself in the face with a hammer to keep up her lies. It’s so extreme. I really think some intervention is needed here, whilst in prison she needs some mental health support. I wonder though if she will be treated badly in prison, women who have been raped I imagine will not take kindly to her making it up as every time one of these stories of a woman lying about rape comes out it is thrown at women for years after who have genuinely been attacked.

What she did was awful, but I’d like to see rapists treated with the same amount of public disgust and the same sentences. They won’t, though.

This exactly - what's the rape conviction rate again?