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What proportion of men who identify as women do you think have had an operation to remove their male genitals?

160 replies

ScrollingLeaves · 29/12/2022 13:27

Given that any man who identifies as a woman may legally be treated as a woman, join women’s sports, be housed in women's prisons, be in a women’s rape crisis centre, or be on a women’s hospital ward,

I am interested to know what other women reading here think about this question.

The reason for asking here, not on the Feminism and Women’s Rights/Gender board, Mumsnet HQ, is to find out what people think more generally. Please do not move it.

I am asking this out of interest in the wake of the Gender Recognition Reform Bill which has just been passed by Scottish Parliament.

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MagpiePi · 29/12/2022 13:30

I always thought it was about 5%

The GRR only requires 'living as the desired gender' but nobody can say what that means, other than maybe having your new name on a gas bill.

It is, quite literally, a load of bollocks

DifferentYearSameShit · 29/12/2022 13:30

What proportion of men who ID as women do you feel are a danger to women in female toilets, rape centres, hospital wards compared with men who ID as men in not gendered areas?

BMW6 · 29/12/2022 13:31

Very few I reckon. That's why I don't believe those who claim they "feel" like a woman when they want to keep their intact fully functioning penis.

flamingogold · 29/12/2022 13:35

DifferentYearSameShit · 29/12/2022 13:30

What proportion of men who ID as women do you feel are a danger to women in female toilets, rape centres, hospital wards compared with men who ID as men in not gendered areas?

About the same proportion.

Sep200024 · 29/12/2022 13:37

flamingogold · 29/12/2022 13:35

About the same proportion.

Yes, absolutely - at least the same proportion. Likely a bit higher once you to take into account the % who have transitioned primarily for this reason.

Sep200024 · 29/12/2022 13:39

BMW6 · 29/12/2022 13:31

Very few I reckon. That's why I don't believe those who claim they "feel" like a woman when they want to keep their intact fully functioning penis.

”I feeels I should be a woman, but I don’t want to lose the cock between my legs”

It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so dangerous

HermioneWeasley · 29/12/2022 13:40

I think it’s about 10% isn’t it?

Flapjack637 · 29/12/2022 13:41

1%
Repeal the GRA.

EverythingPsy · 29/12/2022 13:41

Less than 1%

Most of it has nothing to do with gender identity and everything to do with an inability to present as the feminine of the species without eroding the 'facts of life', just to keep face because the masculine of the species do not make space for them and refuse to accept males who prefer the feminine. Same for transmen.

Rockersversuswalter · 29/12/2022 13:41

The surgery is pretty dodgy.

I know- the rest of the trans garbage is also dodgy!

SnowAndIceLobelia · 29/12/2022 13:42

about 5%?

men seem to be very attached to their dicks.

Sep200024 · 29/12/2022 13:42

In answer to the original question, clearly the proportion should be 100% as this should be a pre-requisite to “being a woman”.

Anything prior to this is the ‘working towards transition’ phase.

As a result of too many people with spurious intentions being in positions of power, I’m going to guess that the really figure is in single digits?

Joolsin · 29/12/2022 13:42

It's about 5%, meaning that about 95% of those TWs who are imprisoned in women's prisons have the capacity to rape fellow inmates.

SnowAndIceLobelia · 29/12/2022 13:44

Joolsin · 29/12/2022 13:42

It's about 5%, meaning that about 95% of those TWs who are imprisoned in women's prisons have the capacity to rape fellow inmates.

And indeed do rape fellow inmates. (In case anyone needs it spelled out more clearly).

imogenation1 · 29/12/2022 13:44

Transgender women report bottom surgery at rates between 5–13% currently. Even more transgender women desire bottom surgery in the future: between 45–54%.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 29/12/2022 13:45

I don't know, but am going to guess its very low. Maybe 1 or 2%?

Hedjwitch · 29/12/2022 13:46

4%

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 29/12/2022 13:47

imogenation1 · 29/12/2022 13:44

Transgender women report bottom surgery at rates between 5–13% currently. Even more transgender women desire bottom surgery in the future: between 45–54%.

Mmm! The upper limits of that is far higher than I have seen.

Are those UK stats? Country makes a difference.

Rockersversuswalter · 29/12/2022 13:49

imogenation1 · 29/12/2022 13:44

Transgender women report bottom surgery at rates between 5–13% currently. Even more transgender women desire bottom surgery in the future: between 45–54%.

I wouldn't take their word on any of that.

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unclebuck · 29/12/2022 13:51

It was 8% but that was a stat I read years and years ago. The new group of Trans-women seem to be mostly straight men in 'sexy' women's clothes who have no surgery, take no hormones but spend time on line persuading teenage girls with ASD to have radical surgery and take hormones. After much reading I now believe the later group are being sacrificed to justify the firsts acting out a sexual fetish in public. Tragic.

Rainbowshit · 29/12/2022 13:53

Very few. Like most men they are very fond of their knobs.

viques · 29/12/2022 13:53

Almost none I imagine, because we all know the important things about being a woman are having big tits, big lips, big hair, perfect make up and tight clothes.

anything else you can tuck away in spankz.

imogenation1 · 29/12/2022 13:55

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 29/12/2022 13:47

Mmm! The upper limits of that is far higher than I have seen.

Are those UK stats? Country makes a difference.

I did search for UK so hopefully

theworldsgonefeckingmad · 29/12/2022 13:56

Well IMO nobody with a penis should be able to identify as a woman, women don't have them...nothing with a penis should be imprisoned in a woman's prison (not including the staff) or on a women's hospital ward (not including staff) it seems common sense if you want to be a woman, crack on and get the chop chop

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