The one where Big Dog is still here, and the race to be the new Top Dog. Thread 11

[Roussette]

Here is the old thread... let's keep on top of what's going on!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4584955-the-one-where-big-dog-gets-poop-scooped-thread-10?page=39

It's worth looking at the Shadow Cabinet. Not as lacking in diversity as people like to say.

labour.org.uk/people/shadow-cabinet/

But did she ever actually fight in the Navy as claimed?

I explained that too 🙄

Education, report from Oct 21

The growing gap between state school and private school spending
ifs.org.uk/publications/15672

12 years of tory

Fascinating that you spend so much time pm that article without once addressing its the central point. Are you concerned at all about the links between Johnson and Lebedev which even he admits to?

Are you concerned at all about the links between Johnson and Lebedev which even he admits to?

You won't get an answer, I've asked countless times.

Labour tweeted this in May;
Labour would introduce a windfall tax on oil and gas profits to support households with up to £600 off your energy bills.

Labour were only proposing up to £600 for the poorest households?

As you well know, @Clavinova, that is not the limit of Labour proposals.

So you're OK with him visiting a former KGB Agent, are you?

As have I and I made it a simple yes/no

So £400 for every house that Sunak owns. Do you think that's remotely sensible?

In the Times

I think we need tick boxes, we're deffo doing something wrong!

Of course. He has to get his instructions from his paymaster find ways to fund the wallpaper.

So our caretaker Prime Minister isn't taking care and is concentrating on jollies and trying to defend his worthless reputation. All the while, we are paying him a fat salary and maintaining the property he is using as his party venue.

Isn't it time for the Tories to have the honesty to say that keeping him as caretaker serves no purpose whatsoever, is a total waste of money, and that practically anyone else could do a better job as caretaker?

So depressingly true.

It’s another seven weeks, most of it with parliament in recess. I honestly can’t get pissed off about it, it’s enough that he’s going. I’ll reserve my anger for the appalling quality of the proposed replacements.

This Ian Dunt thread

First question at the ITV debate is what is your one idea to help with cost of living. Not one of them has one, except to undo some of the things their own government has done.
twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1548731102914805761?t=dqXsKDrWDtSV_MS5ESGVaw&s=19

Kit Malthouse is still happy lying for Johnson.

Steven Swinford

Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss are unlikely to do Sky News leadership debate

They're said to want to focus on the MPs' hustings in the run up to the final vote on Wednesday

There's also concern that the two brutal debates so far have been incredibly damaging for Tories

I'm told that at the end of Friday's vitriolic leadership debate on Channel 4, Sunak turned to Truss and asked: 'Why are we doing this?'

Both questioned the point of the debates amid concerns about where they will leave the Conservative Party in the long-term

Team Truss source: "It is not the right time to be doing more debates when this part of the contest only has 358 voters. The broadcasters should stop squabbling amongst themselves. The C4 debate in particular was a massive mistake and candidates were wrong to take part in it."

It wasn't the broadcasters doing the squabbling

Johnson is speaking at Farnborough Air Show.
Is he drunk?
Not only his usual waffle but stumbling over his words quite a bit too...

It really wasn't the broadcasters squabbling. They must think we were born yesterday.

It is interesting that letting a little bit of light in to the process reveals only how poor the candidates are.

I know that the leadership debates have been terrible ( mostly ) and only any good if you have a say in the eventual outcome , but it's also good it's shined a light on how they want to move forwards and what some of them really think. I bet even Jeremy Corbyn was shocked that Rishi actually said something positive about him ! I know I was a bit!

Roussette
Oh purleeeease!
Johnson himself has admitted to this! When asked by the Liaison Committee
"did you meet Alexander Lebedev in 2018 without government officials when he was Foreign Secretary, he said he did.

Why in god's name are you trying to pretend he didn't? You're being ridiculous. It is out of his mouth FFS!

That's not the question you asked me though is it? You didn't ask me whether there were any Foreign Office officials present at the meeting - you only asked me about Johnson's "security detail" at "the palazzo".

Definition:
What does security detail mean?
A security detail, often known as a PSD (Protective Services Detail, Personal Security...

Your question:
Are you denying he attended the palazzo without his security detail?

My answer:
No idea - one of Carole's links says this;
Neither the Foreign Office or the police were prepared to say whether Johnson had gone against protocol and travelled to Italy without security.

More from one of Carole's links;

The Met said it could not discuss Johnson’s security arrangements when he was foreign secretary. “We simply do not discuss matters of protective security of this nature. If we confirm or deny that officers went on certain trips with certain people, then it could impact or undermine our security stance and operations in the future.”

It's pathetic if anyone comes on here trying to pretend it hasn't happened. And it just shows you up big time.

Better luck next time with a different question (I may be free on Wednesday). My advice would be to drink plenty of water in this hot weather.

Clavinova, do you think it is ok for the Foreign Secretary to meet with a ex-KGB lieutenant-colonel without his security detail or Foreign Office officials, at the height of the Skripal poisoning crisis?

Yes or No?