The one where Big Dog is still here, and the race to be the new Top Dog. Thread 11

[Roussette]

Here is the old thread... let's keep on top of what's going on!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4584955-the-one-where-big-dog-gets-poop-scooped-thread-10?page=39

Clav Are you seriously concerned whether Lebedev's pet is named after Boris Johnson or Boris Yeltsin?

Is that all you're worried about.... that's IT?!!

Personally I'm more concerned with BJ, armed with official papers, giving his security detail the slip to party away with the two Lebedevs just after a Novichok poisoning on british soil. Then lying about declaring it to the Standards Commission.

But there you go... maybe I should pay more attention to the hound
You're sounding very desperate.

Many many articles have corrections. Sometimes they need to hurry to get to press and Cadwalladr's correction is a minor one. I've seen far worse than that.

She is a brilliant well respected journalist who held Arron Banks to account.
And won.

Nadine Dorries is a ridiculous love starved of Boris woman who has been over promoted and is incapable of doing her job properly.

At least she made the corrections unlike Johnson and his employment claims in parliament.

DuncinToffee
Liz Truss who was warned the Aus and NZ trade deals would shrink the country's farming and food sectors

Shrink - by what percentage? Disappointing that the EU want to pursue free trade deals with Australia and New Zealand in the future and shrink Ireland's farming and food sectors.

Ooooh I missed these whatabouteries

Leadership candidate Liz Truss has nothing to do with deals the EU makes with other countries. Best deals ever, wasn’t that what we were promised?

No Parliamentary oversight of Uk-Aus deal. No opportunity to discuss the benefits and the flaws.
I thought we were all about the sovereignty these days?

I don't think the Tories understand the cost of living crisis.

In October 2021, the price cap was about £1400.
In April 2022, it went to around £2000
In Ocober 2022, it's predicted to be around £3300

So £1900 more than a year before.

Government support for the poorest households - about 8 million who get Universal Credit (which is a LOT of households) is £1200.

So that leaves people poorer just on energy bills.

I think it's shameful to live in a country where 1/3 of households need universal credit to survive. It's good that support is available but shameful that support is needed.

This doesn't even touch the inflation increases in food and fuel.

Possibly. She was trying to lie about her true stance so it's no wonder she faltered!!!

I don't want another liar as PM so she has to go for me anyway!

Well quite. Which was why I was surprised when I thought that's what she'd said 🤣

Carole Cadwalladr is such a great journalist.

We watched with the subtitles on. We both heard her say vasectomy. Then the subtitles said vasectomy.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who heard that! And it seems that's what she said then?!

Roussette
Clav Are you seriously concerned whether Lebedev's pet is named after Boris Johnson or Boris Yeltsin?

It's an indication of her flimsy/non existent evidence to back up some of her claims.

Personally I'm more concerned with BJ, armed with official papers

Official papers according to whom? Cadwalladr has linked to a hazy photograph of Boris Johnson holding something on the Twitter feed of someone I've not heard of before.

She is a brilliant well respected journalist who held Arron Banks to account.
And won.

She's had to make several apologies along the way, e.g;

“On 22 Oct 2020, I tweeted that Arron had been found to have broken the law. I accept he has not. I regret making this false statement, which I have deleted. I undertake not to repeat it."
“I apologise to Arron for the upset and distress caused.”

pressgazette.co.uk/observers-carole-cadwalladr-apologises-for-false-claim-against-arron-banks-in-now-deleted-tweet/

Clavinova, do you think it is ok for the Foreign Secretary to meet with a ex-KGB lieutenant-colonel without his security detail or Foreign Office officials, at the height of the Skripal poisoning crisis?

Yes or No?

Official papers according to whom? Cadwalladr has linked to a hazy photograph of Boris Johnson holding something on the Twitter feed of someone I've not heard of before

Ahh.... so it's OK that he goes as long as he doesn't have official papers with him, is that what you mean?
What about what he might say?

Are you OK with his visit to a former KGB Agent's palazzo just after Russia has launched a novichock attack in our country?

She's had to make several apologies along the way

Not anywhere near the stratosphere of Johnson's apologies! He has humbly apologised countless times hasn't he....

It's an indication of her flimsy/non existent evidence to back up some of her claims

Personally I don't care about what he calls his dog.

What about the visit? Can you answer how you feel about that? Priti Patel got sacked for going off piste with Israel.

I think we're on a hiding to nothing here Duncin. I've never known Clav criticise anything this Government does. No nay never.

Nice going along a different path.

Have people been watching The Undeclared War on Channel 4?
It's about Russian interference in a future UK election after Boris Johnson gets removed in a cabinet coup. Very interesting. Especially with Russian bots on Twitter and other social media platforms.

cakeorwine
I don't think the Tories understand the cost of living crisis
In Ocober 2022, it's predicted to be around £3300*
So £1900 more than a year before
Government support for the poorest households - about 8 million who get Universal Credit (which is a LOT of households) is £1200

It's not October yet.

Labour tweeted this in May;
Labour would introduce a windfall tax on oil and gas profits to support households with up to £600 off your energy bills.

Labour were only proposing up to £600 for the poorest households?

What I am interested to learn, is whether comrade Clav will continue to defend the Nasty party when Boris is no longer PM.

I must say I for one am delighted to learn that it is not October yet. Thank you @Clavinova for that great insight.

October is coming soon.

It's just 3 months away.

The Tory candidates have said they will remove the environmental and social levy - which helps fund the household support fund for vulnerable pensioners.

They don't get the cost of living crisis. They are the ones in charge.

It's shameful

It's amazing how we can all post multiple & lengthy posts and yet what's not said says far more about us.

Roussette
Are you OK with his visit to a former KGB Agent's palazzo

The palazzo is owned by the son - a British citizen.

Personally, I'd like to know why Keir Starmer didn't question Seumas Milne's appointment as Executive Director of Strategy & Communications for the Labour Party (October 2015 - April 2020);

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298550/Red-handed-Photograph-shows-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-pro-Kremlin-spin-chief-held-Putin-s-iron-grip-propaganda-summit.html

I've been watching 'The Undeclared War' (my ds is thinking of doing an HNC in Cyber security). Its fascinating.

I bet you would.

In fact it's 2 1/2 months to October. New PM at the start of September. 64% higher bills 4 weeks later.

cakeorwine
October is coming soon

Have Labour proposed more than £600 yet?

Labour isn't in charge.