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The Invasion is ongoing...Part 6

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Damnloginpopup · 02/03/2022 20:49

Things are ramping up. No end in site as yet.

Link to thread 5 here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4494173-The-Invasion-is-ongoing-Part-5?pg=1

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WeAreTheHeroes · 03/03/2022 07:16

The IPC has finally said it won't allow Russian and Belarusian athletes to compete in the Paralympics. This is in response to many other athletes saying they won't compete against them in protest.

spleencoffin · 03/03/2022 07:17

Russia are completely and utterly screwed whatever happens

I've refrained from Nuclear chat because some of it is not helpful but for the sake of my point even if nuclear weapons become involved Russia is screwed

What the actual fuck is that madman thinking?

Tigersonvaseline · 03/03/2022 07:17

I've got mixed feelings about the Paralympics tbh.but ultimately glad they followed suit.

Tigersonvaseline · 03/03/2022 07:18

I think it's important too Keep lines of communication open for ordinary Russian to know what's going on.
How many understand that they went the death penalty?

Roussette · 03/03/2022 07:19

Oh yes, much better. To keep up the fight against Putin after all he's been through means something.

BBC just announced that Belarus and Russia will be banned from Paralympics, despite yesterday's announement they would be allowed to compete as neutrals. Apparently too many other countries have refused to compete against them, thereby making the Games unviable.

I can't link to anything as I've only just heard this as breaking news on BBC breakfast

ChimChimeny · 03/03/2022 07:21

I've been pretty good at holding it together but for some reason @HeadPain post about the elderly being stuck really got to me. A poster on one of the previous threads is a wheelchair user and commented about how they wouldn't be able to flee, it's so heartening to hear that there are people brave enough to help those who need it

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 03/03/2022 07:25

The IPC has finally said it won't allow Russian and Belarusian athletes to compete in the Paralympics. This is in response to many other athletes saying they won't compete against them in protest.

I do feel sorry for Russian sporting Elites as they are victims in this also however can understand why we must make these sanctions.

Its not fair to the world to allow Russian extremists government to continue to commit genocide.

Tigersonvaseline · 03/03/2022 07:29

In this specific case though we are talking about disabled athletics.
But it's correct,but sad.
Imagine being disabled in Russia

Tigersonvaseline · 03/03/2022 07:34

I think theoligarchs should be re named pirates...

Roussette · 03/03/2022 07:37

Imagine being disabled in Russia

Yes indeed. Or LGBT. They have no dignity in that country.

Alexandra2001 · 03/03/2022 07:38

@spleencoffin

Russia are completely and utterly screwed whatever happens

I've refrained from Nuclear chat because some of it is not helpful but for the sake of my point even if nuclear weapons become involved Russia is screwed

What the actual fuck is that madman thinking?

Did you see Newsnight yesterday? Explains a lot.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00151jg/newsnight-02032022

From 30:50, interviews with 3 Russian experts, reassuring but terrifying at the same time!

Alexandra2001 · 03/03/2022 07:39

@Tigersonvaseline

I think theoligarchs should be re named pirates...
Germany has seized a 500million euro yacht.

I'm struggling with the UK's hot air and no action on these monsters.

ChimChimeny · 03/03/2022 07:39

Russian navy shops are reportedly gathering near Odessa

mobile.twitter.com/mschwirtz/status/1499280824386179076

Tigersonvaseline · 03/03/2022 07:41

" Putin's grab a granny force*

Now arresting the elderly and children's!!

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 03/03/2022 07:51

All political people/ parties are vulnerable to bribes, donations, lobbying And we need new laws to uphold the upmost transparency across all parties? True, and one of the union bosses responsible for the TFL staff strikes this week, seems to have had very cosy links with Russia.

FatFucker · 03/03/2022 07:51

I'm struggling with the UK's hot air and no action on these monsters.

I agree and suspect both of our parties have much to hide, and are covering their arses before taking stronger actions.

Bettyboopawoop · 03/03/2022 07:52

Apparently a billionaire has put a bounty on Putin's head for a million pounds.

RedToothBrush · 03/03/2022 07:53

Original thread has lots of pictures illustrating the point but this should get the point across anyway.

Trent Telenko @trenttelenko
This is a thread that will explain the implied poor Russian Army truck maintenance practices based on this photo of a Pantsir-S1 wheeled gun-missile system's right rear pair of tires below & the operational implications during the Ukrainian mud season.🧵

For the sin of being the new guy, I was the DCMA quality auditor in charge of the US Army's FMTV "vehicle exercise program" at the contractor manufacturing them from the Mid-1990's to the mid-2000's Then we got more new guys.

Short form: Military trucks need to be...

...turned over and moved once a month for preventative maintenance reasons.

In particular you want to exercise the central tire air inflation system (CTIS) to see if lines have leaks or had insect/vermin nests blocking the system.

CTIS Controller & CTIS diagram👇👇

One of the biggest reasons for the repositioning, per TACOM logistic Representatives, was that direct sunlight ages truck tires.

The repositioning of Trucks in close parking prevents a lot of this sun rotting and cycling the CTIS keeps the tire sidewalls supple.

When you leave military truck tires in one place for months on end. The side walls get rotted/brittle such that using low tire pressure setting for any appreciable distance will cause the tires to fail catastrophically via rips.

Now look at the same Pantsir-S1 tire sidewalls after the Ukrainians tried to tow or drive it out of the mud.

The right rear tire fell apart because the rips in it were too big for the CTIS to keep aired up.

No one exercised that vehicle for 1 year

There is a huge operational level implication in this. If the Russian Army was too corrupt to exercise a Pantsir-S1. They were too corrupt to exercise the trucks & wheeled AFV's now in Ukraine.

The Russians simply cannot risk them off road during the Rasputitsa/Mud season

And there is photographic evidence of this.

There are 60(+) Russian army trucks crowded & parked on this raised road bed to avoid the fate of the mud-bogged Pantsir-S1.

Given the demonstrated levels of corruption in truck maintenance. There is no way in h--l that there are enough tires in the Russian army logistical system.

So their wheeled AFV/truck park is as road bound as Russian Army columns were in the 1st Russo-Finnish War.

What that means is that as long as and where ever the Spring Rasputitsa is happening. The Russian Army attack front is three wheeled AFV's wide.

When the Ukrainians can block the road with ATGM destroyed vehicles. They can move down either side of the road like Fins in 1939

...destroying Russian truck columns.

The Crimea is a desert and the South Ukrainian coastal areas are dryer. So we are not seeing this there.

But elsewhere the Russians have a huge problem for the next 4-to-6 weeks.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 03/03/2022 07:54

Navalny is also very brave. Amazed but also in awe that he continues to fight against the Russian State from his prison cell. Surprised that his phone has not been confiscated.

supermoonrising · 03/03/2022 07:56

@alltheapples
It is clear the Russian army is in chaos. It may win cities in Ukraine, but really they should have taken all of Ukraine by now. The fact they haven't shows how disorganised and weak they are.

Not sure how much truth is in this. I’d agree that Putin’s administration are probably not overjoyed at how things have played out. OTH, it took the US 3 weeks to take Baghdad. And the Russians tactics have been more softly softly - no shock and awe tactics, no constant rain of fire from the skies to break morale.
We’re being told that these Russian soldiers are little kids being made cups of tea by Ukrainian grannies as they make sobbing video chats to their mums. On the other hand the Russians have in one week taken a city of 300,000 with intentionally low civilian casualties and just a small fraction of their available force. There’s propaganda on both sides.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 03/03/2022 07:57

Apparently a billionaire has put a bounty on Putin's head for a million pounds. That's what's required really.

WeAreTheHeroes · 03/03/2022 07:59

Do you not think it more likely that someone outside the prison operates his Twitter account and he has dictated what he wants to say to them via some means?

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 03/03/2022 08:01

@WeAreTheHeroes you are likely correct. But you might think that Navalny would be kept in solitary confinement to prevent any contact!

Alexandra2001 · 03/03/2022 08:01

@FatFucker

I'm struggling with the UK's hot air and no action on these monsters.

I agree and suspect both of our parties have much to hide, and are covering their arses before taking stronger actions.

Labour have no power to take any action on Russian money whatsoever, all they can do is call for further action, which they have been calling for many years.

This is down to the Conservatives only, they are in power, they can force the issue, introduce the laws BUT they are refusing to do so, its shameful.

Johnson even refused to act on Russia Today, it was taken off UK TV by the EU and sanctions.... and note Russian hasn't barred the BBC etc... so i do wonder exactly what is the relationship here.

Febrier · 03/03/2022 08:01

#IStandWithRussia and #IStandWithPutin are trending on Twitter