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The invasion has begun

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Damnloginpopup · 24/02/2022 03:50

Russia has begun it's invasion of Ukraine. Who knows where this will end.

apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-russia-moscow-kyiv-626a8c5ec22217bacb24ece60fac4fe1

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Roundeartheratchriatmas · 24/02/2022 17:44

I would like to see major sanctions at the very least, kick them out of SWIFT now.

Supplying Ukraine with weapons and intelligence too.

I’d like to avoid WW3 but by the looks of it it will o it be a matter of time until Russia takes somewhere else.

Letting Hitler take land didn’t prevent war. And letting Putin take Ukraine with such limited response has confirmed to him we are weak and afraid of him.

Thoosa · 24/02/2022 17:45

Someone at PMQs just made reference to broadcasting being suspended. I can’t rewind but presumably that’s Ukrainian? Seems less effective as a move now there’s internet.

whenthedoveslie · 24/02/2022 17:47

The sanctions so far is mere tokenism. Pathetic, and just feed into Putins idea of our weakness.

Must chuckle at Boris' posturing. Putin has been laughing his ass off at the UK since June 2016.

He won't ever take a country that voted to fuck itself seriously.

We delude ourselves if we think otherwise.

We are quite right to feel fearful though.

MarshaBradyo · 24/02/2022 17:50

@Roundeartheratchriatmas

I would like to see major sanctions at the very least, kick them out of SWIFT now.

Supplying Ukraine with weapons and intelligence too.

I’d like to avoid WW3 but by the looks of it it will o it be a matter of time until Russia takes somewhere else.

Letting Hitler take land didn’t prevent war. And letting Putin take Ukraine with such limited response has confirmed to him we are weak and afraid of him.

Many doing weapons and sanctions too not just by us

Not sure re SWIFT part

So we could do all that and not enter Ukraine and he’ll keep going

If we enter then what..

Alexandra2001 · 24/02/2022 17:51

What are people wanting to be done?

I would nato re enforced across all its eastern flank, not just 100s but 1000s of troops, tanks. aircraft.
We need also to dramatically increase defence spending.

As well as economic, i'd like to see Russia removed from ALL sporting competitions, esp football and the Olympics, which is only two years away, appreciate they are as country but also that committee nonsense too.
I don't agree with BJ's "not Russians are bad" we don't know that, he is taking far far too long to be removing citizenship and stripping assets, its been years since the Russian report.

FacebookPhotos · 24/02/2022 17:52

Like for him this is just the beginning

Crimea was the beginning. The West did almost nothing about it. Our (UK) politicians kept taking Russian money and continued to allow Russian money to be laundered through London.

What are people wanting to be done?

Serious financial restrictions - cut off the ability for the Russian state to finance its war.
Military support - offer as much hardware and intel as we can spare.
Humanitarian aid - medical supplies and finance for refugees in the countries immediately next to Ukraine.
Social sanctions - no more sporting events held in Russia and expulsion of all Russian sports teams from international events.

Roundeartheratchriatmas · 24/02/2022 17:54

@Alexandra2001 I agree.

Bam them for any international events, suspend all visas and re enforce all of NATOs borders.

Tigersonvaseline · 24/02/2022 17:54

Has the football been cancelled?

MarshaBradyo · 24/02/2022 17:55

@Alexandra2001

What are people wanting to be done?

I would nato re enforced across all its eastern flank, not just 100s but 1000s of troops, tanks. aircraft.
We need also to dramatically increase defence spending.

As well as economic, i'd like to see Russia removed from ALL sporting competitions, esp football and the Olympics, which is only two years away, appreciate they are as country but also that committee nonsense too.
I don't agree with BJ's "not Russians are bad" we don't know that, he is taking far far too long to be removing citizenship and stripping assets, its been years since the Russian report.

We could do this, sadly we’ve been hit hard over last two years economically already
Alexandra2001 · 24/02/2022 17:55

Humanitarian aid - medical supplies and finance for refugees in the countries immediately next to Ukraine

that old chestnut, anywhere but us?

No, we need to be taking in Ukrainians to this country as well as the EU, maybe halt the Chinese HK coming here in their '000s right now, we need to prioritise.

MarshaBradyo · 24/02/2022 17:55

@Tigersonvaseline

Has the football been cancelled?
I think so
Tigersonvaseline · 24/02/2022 17:56

Maybe it's time for that EU army?
What is their military budget?
Who contribute the most?

Tigersonvaseline · 24/02/2022 17:56

I bloody hope so.

Tigersonvaseline · 24/02/2022 17:57

The Russian people and top brass need to be pushed to topple him

Alexandra2001 · 24/02/2022 17:57

We could do this, sadly we’ve been hit hard over last two years economically already

Indeed we have but building weapons etc creates jobs, taxes and technology!
We have no alternative.

FacebookPhotos · 24/02/2022 17:58

that old chestnut, anywhere but us?

Not at all. That was just the list of what I want to see happen this week!

Cornettoninja · 24/02/2022 17:59

@Thoosa

Someone at PMQs just made reference to broadcasting being suspended. I can’t rewind but presumably that’s Ukrainian? Seems less effective as a move now there’s internet.
Wasn’t that about the news channel RT (Russia Today)?

I think Ofcom are reviewing their broadcasting license but I heard it pointed out that we’re unlikely to revoke it because Russia would retaliate by kicking out the BBC.

GallopingHighRoad · 24/02/2022 18:01

@MarshaBradyo

What are people wanting to be done?

Round what would you like to see happen

  1. Remove the Russian banking system from SWIFT.
  2. Freeze all assets of wealthy Russian oligarchs that are held overseas.
  3. Significantly reinforce troop levels and equipment in all NATO countries.
  4. Supply further defence equipment to Ukraine.
  5. Concentrate cyber attacks against Russian infrastructure.
  6. Run a high profile campaign targeting Russians to reject Putin's war while equally holding out the prospect of a part in the future of Europe once Russian imperialism is abandoned.
  7. Make significant noises that the reinforcement of NATO countries is only as permanent as Putin's hold on Russian politics.
  8. Declare a significant shift towards alternate fuel supplies, including green energy, while abandoning NS2.
  9. Withdraw all aid to Pakistan.
OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet · 24/02/2022 18:02

Just confirmed Russia taken Chernobyl

CovidCorvid · 24/02/2022 18:03

@Thoosa

Someone at PMQs just made reference to broadcasting being suspended. I can’t rewind but presumably that’s Ukrainian? Seems less effective as a move now there’s internet.
Apparently internet and phone lines are down in many cities/towns as well
CustardySergeant · 24/02/2022 18:05

@OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet

Just confirmed Russia taken Chernobyl
Yes, it's getting more terrifying by the second. www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60454795 Who knows how far Putin will go?
dreamingbohemian · 24/02/2022 18:08

@GallopingHighRoad What does Pakistan have to do with any of this?

HillsBesideTheSea · 24/02/2022 18:12

Pakistan PM was in Russia for a diplomatic visit today. The language around the event was interesting.

OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet · 24/02/2022 18:13

A PP asked how many troops we have compared to Russia. We have approximately 25,000 infantry..... Russia have about 400,000

tapastastic · 24/02/2022 18:14

@frenchcheeses

Britain won't do much about it, Johnson and much of his party is in the pocket of Putin. Why was the Russian Report never published? Because it exposes how compromised Johnson and his cronies are.
Two of their biggest donors are Russian
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