Page 17 | Anyone follow the coverage of the Sarah Everard case today and want to vent?

HangingOver · 2021-09-29T13:05:43+00:00

I'm home alone today and except for whatsapping my friends have nothing to do with this incandescent rage and hopeless sadness. Anyone else need to talk? [sad]

BruisedPear · 29/09/2021 18:30

It’s disgusting but there are many more men like him working for the police. They are attracted to the profession.

Last year during the BLM protests people were quick to defend the police and say it’s not all police. However ask black men and ethnic minorities their experiences with the police and they will tell you there’s a lot more of these men in the police force.

My brothers, their friends AND even my husband have all been detained, experienced unnecessary force and even been stripped searched in a way that would traumatise most people without probable cause.

I never grew up with the naivety that the police are for us or there to protect us. Let this shed light on the fact that a lot of men that work for the police shouldn’t have an ounce of power in their lifetimes and aren’t fit to work with the public.

oakleaffy · 29/09/2021 18:31

I've just seen on the News the details, and it is absolutely appalling.
Why on earth wasn't he done for the 'Flashing?'
We really must try to ''lookout'' for women we see who may be in danger.

It is sickening that he abused his power of being in the Police to capture Sarah.
It is beyond obscene what he did to her.

Vile, vile creep.

Ironically a man was very aggressive to me online, and I googled him recently, and he is a convicted paedophile of 33 yrs old.

There are way too many highly dangerous men about.

However...there are good men too. Sorting the wheat from the chaff is the tricky bit.

Littlehaven998 · 29/09/2021 18:31

I’m actually against the death penalty for situations like this. No, you don’t get the easy way out, you don’t get to die and escape justice.

You get to rot in a cell, at the risk of violence from fellow inmates, you get to live with the daily reminder and you’re not even allowed to commit suicide and escape it. You’ll never see your kids again or even have a breath of fresh air.

I remember a case from America where a young girl was muredered in a similar way to Sarah, absolute brutality and her dad campaigned against the death penalty. Her perpetrator got the death penalty by lethal injection and did die that way. Her father said “if only my daughter died by being given a nice injection to go to sleep after her favourite last meal” that really stepped home for me.

The death penalty is too good for him.

Pumperthepumper · 29/09/2021 18:31

[quote worriedatthemoment]@Claudethecat no they shouldn't, do you take responsibility for mums that murder or kill there children
This is about one evil man who did this not about all men
The victim had male relatives too , are you saying they should feel that too ?
I hope they lock him up and throw away the key , look what he has also done to his own kids life as well
[/quote]
I do take responsibility for women who kill, yes. Here’s some things I do:

I don’t make jokes about women killing babies

When I hear a woman has murdered a baby, I don’t say ‘ah well, one bad apple, no problem here’

If I heard someone making jokes about murdering their baby I would do something about it, not pretend I hadn’t heard or laugh along.

I don’t participate in a culture where women murdering babies is seen as entertainment.

I don’t tell babies they have to be on constant guard because of women being murderers

…..and so on. I’d be very surprised if you don’t also do these things. So why is it so difficult for men, all men, yes all men, do to the same for women?

IfImLyingImDying · 29/09/2021 18:32

I tell my girls that if they’re scared and in trouble they find a police officer. They should always trust the police.

Never again. From now on, if a police officer approaches them they are to ask for a second officer and never go with them without knowing exactly what’s going on.

wewereliars · 29/09/2021 18:33

worreiedatthemoment it's not just one man though.

His violence was extreme, but women and girls spend their whole lives changing their behaviour and choices around the fear of violence that colours our whole lives.

Even in the reporting of Sarah's murder, the opening paragraphs in the newspapers was " She was just walking home" translation, she was a nice girl, not a slag or a prostitute, she did not deserve this.

If she was swinging naked from a lamppost, she did not deserve to be abducted, raped, murdered and her body burned like rubbish. BUT IT STILL IS THE FIRST PARAGRAPH!

wewereliars · 29/09/2021 18:33

Fear of male violence that should say!

HereticFanjo · 29/09/2021 18:34

It has given me a visceral rage I can't even explain. I feel real violence towards him. Truthfully, I hope he spends ten years being tormented every day in prison and then gets murdered.He is a walking nightmare. That poor girl and her poor family. There is nothing we could do to him that's bad enough. Not a single thing.

MrsRobbieHart · 29/09/2021 18:34

@Littlehaven998

I’m actually against the death penalty for situations like this. No, you don’t get the easy way out, you don’t get to die and escape justice.

You get to rot in a cell, at the risk of violence from fellow inmates, you get to live with the daily reminder and you’re not even allowed to commit suicide and escape it. You’ll never see your kids again or even have a breath of fresh air.

I remember a case from America where a young girl was muredered in a similar way to Sarah, absolute brutality and her dad campaigned against the death penalty. Her perpetrator got the death penalty by lethal injection and did die that way. Her father said “if only my daughter died by being given a nice injection to go to sleep after her favourite last meal” that really stepped home for me.

The death penalty is too good for him.

I totally agree with you. People like WC should spend the rest of his life praying for such an easy way out. And never get it.

worriedatthemoment · 29/09/2021 18:35

@IfImLyingImDying but thats not all men is it ? All the ones i know find it disgusting and would not cover up for someone
The victim has male relatives as well who should not feel any blame
Many women stand behind violent abusive men as well
What should be done is tougher sentances including all those that are complicit

Pikamoo · 29/09/2021 18:35

I think the death penalty is wholly appropriate. In prison he'll have a life and have plans and dreams for the future (small dreams like to read a new book but still there). He'll have relationships. He doesn't deserve any of that. I like the burn him at the stake idea.

Lollipop444 · 29/09/2021 18:35

@TeaStory

When a teacher is exposed as being a pedophile, we all don't suddenly start saying "all teachers" do we?

I’ve never known a school where a member of staff was nicknamed “The Rapist” by colleagues and jokes made about it…

I’d not read about him being known as this, but if true, surely this needs looking into further?

There must be a reason for this nickname and It may shed light on the workplace culture.

Not making excuses but opportunities may have been there to report him sooner.

HalzTangz · 29/09/2021 18:35

@DoraMaude

It's one of the worst things I've ever read. That poor woman. However he is the one to blame - I don't think we should diminish this in any way by seeking to hold anyone else to account. He is an evil man who was entirely responsible for this. Not all men. Not the police.

Yes you are right he is evil, but the police are guilty to, they should at the very last have suspended and removed his warrant card days before when allegations was made against him.

I'm not convince Sarah is his only victim either.

TheVanguardSix · 29/09/2021 18:35

40 years ago, using steroids and watching hard core porn would have barred you from being in the police. Now, its okay, and you can expose yourself to women and still have a weapon. Yes the Met are misogynistic and culpable.

Yep. And it's funny, I have to sit there with police myself, talking about my daughter's sexual abuse and all I can think is, 'are you friend or foe?' I don't trust the police at all... especially after putting an 11 year old girl through four hours of a gruelling video statement then telling her (regarding the perp) "He may not go to prison. Just get a suspended sentence." It was like acid on the wound. They're assholes and I don't think they're out to protect any female.

Mulhollandmagoo · 29/09/2021 18:36

Yes, and I feel sick and sad!!! That poor poor thing, I cannot imagine the fear and the panic she felt! I have a bubbling anger about the whole thing too

I wouldn't want to be a rapist, woman murdering cop in prison, so there will be some justice for Sarah once he gets behind bars 🙏

My 2yo daughter is currently cuddled into me under a blanket and I feel sick to the pit of my stomach that something like this could happen to her because some sexist entitled scumbag thinks that him getting his kicks is more important than her life!!!

Upwherethebirdsfly · 29/09/2021 18:36

Yes, her mum’s statement made me cry. It made me hurt. But I can’t even begin to imagine, for even a second, how her family feel. It must be like constant torture. So permanent and irreversible. I can’t even contemplate what Sarah herself felt 😢. There are no words or comparisons.

He is utterly evil. I’m not interested in vilifying anyone but him, but I do think the police need to really look hard at their handling of him. Apparently called ‘the rapist’ by colleagues, and allegations made against him by another woman. Surely he was a known risk.

IfImLyingImDying · 29/09/2021 18:36

[quote worriedatthemoment]@IfImLyingImDying but thats not all men is it ? All the ones i know find it disgusting and would not cover up for someone
The victim has male relatives as well who should not feel any blame
Many women stand behind violent abusive men as well
What should be done is tougher sentances including all those that are complicit
[/quote]
It’s not all men, but it is ALWAYS men.

97% of women have been subject to sexual assault and/or harassment by men.

That’s an awful lot of men do you not think?

the80sweregreat · 29/09/2021 18:37

The police are corrupt to the core.
They make me feel sick and they are meant to protect us.

Jackiebrambles · 29/09/2021 18:37

I feel the same. Death too good for him, I feel such a rage. I hope they make sure he can’t top himself and take the east way out. Utter fucking bastard.

Mulhollandmagoo · 29/09/2021 18:38

And if this isn't the wake up call that the police needs a full reform then I don't know what is!

worriedatthemoment · 29/09/2021 18:38

@Pumperthepumper and not all men do that as well and lots of women also watch pornography make sexist rude jokes
Yes more men and things need to change but we can't blame every single one
I have sons , one was out in a club and a guy was hassling a girl, they approached the man and told him to leave her alone and she wasn't interested and made sure she wAs ok , took her back to her friends.
So some men do stand up

oakleaffy · 29/09/2021 18:39

@Littlehaven998

I’m actually against the death penalty for situations like this. No, you don’t get the easy way out, you don’t get to die and escape justice.

You get to rot in a cell, at the risk of violence from fellow inmates, you get to live with the daily reminder and you’re not even allowed to commit suicide and escape it. You’ll never see your kids again or even have a breath of fresh air.

I remember a case from America where a young girl was muredered in a similar way to Sarah, absolute brutality and her dad campaigned against the death penalty. Her perpetrator got the death penalty by lethal injection and did die that way. Her father said “if only my daughter died by being given a nice injection to go to sleep after her favourite last meal” that really stepped home for me.

The death penalty is too good for him.

Yes...I do agree that death is easy. But keeping these unspeakables alive is on our 'Dollar' so to speak. They cost us thousands a year.

A convicted copper sexual deviant isn't going to have an easy time in prison.

WrapAroundYourDreams · 29/09/2021 18:39

Fucking hell, are we still doing NAMALT? Really?

Pumperthepumper · 29/09/2021 18:39

[quote worriedatthemoment]@Pumperthepumper and not all men do that as well and lots of women also watch pornography make sexist rude jokes
Yes more men and things need to change but we can't blame every single one
I have sons , one was out in a club and a guy was hassling a girl, they approached the man and told him to leave her alone and she wasn't interested and made sure she wAs ok , took her back to her friends.
So some men do stand up [/quote]
All men should do it. All of them.

There’s a culture of female exploitation that wouldn’t exist if men didn’t want it to. All men need to do more.

worriedatthemoment · 29/09/2021 18:39

@Upwherethebirdsfly yes definitely should look at themselves as well