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Janegrey333 · 11/10/2020 12:56

Seems to have shut up shop as from this morning.

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Saucery · 12/10/2020 19:28

Coming soon, Traveller Lives Matter.
With riots, police kneeling, the whole lot.

White guilt is wrecking society. You can’t even say criminals deserve harsh treatment if they happen to be non-white. Which statistically speaking happens incredibly often. This last sentence is an actual fact that you would get banned for on many social platforms.

Lovely anti-traveller hate example for starters.

BakedCam · 12/10/2020 19:29

There was enough jumping up and down on this forum never mind another one when it came to asking for a Black Mumsnetters space.

BIWI · 12/10/2020 19:29

Yes there was @BakedCam. It was really quite shocking - but MNHQ did delete rather than let racist posts stand.

HeIenaDove · 12/10/2020 19:30

I dont read them either @Chicchicchicchiclana as i would find discussing the Royals as boring as hell. I thought the country would move on from this unhealthy obsession after the death of Princess Diana but it seems not.

Roussette · 12/10/2020 19:33

There are even worse threads too. I just went to look to make sure I wasn't making stuff in my head up. I'd seen it before but wondered if I'd exaggerated it. Ummm, no. I'd underplayed it actually.

I will not name names, because I won't lower myself to the level of certain posters on there, but needless to say... there are a few posters who rant and rave over there about woke woke woke and how racism doesn't exist.

As I've said more than once, certain posters have spoilt it for others and that's a big shame for those on that site who were enjoying the fun bits, the supportive threads etc.

Rather than making unsubstantiated accusations, would you care to provide some evidential proof?
What do you expect us to do?
Copy and paste a vile huge long racist rant here?
No.
Go and look yourself
Try the post about cancel culture and freedom of speech. Or how shocking that a black presenter is taking over from a white one on Question of Sport.

Quaagars · 12/10/2020 19:33

But I am not racist, and neither are my views
Sheesh

and they can say I am til hell freezes over; it doesn't make it true

As I said, never, ever, see it and will never admit to it whatever "proof" they get, whatever anyone says.
I never understand how people can be so closed off and tunnel visioned, and blind.

Roussette · 12/10/2020 19:35

Copy and paste a vile huge long racist rant here?
Lolol, beat me to it BIWI

Quaagars · 12/10/2020 19:36

There was enough jumping up and down on this forum never mind another one when it came to asking for a Black Mumsnetters space

Sadly true Sad
Glad MN did (mostly) delete and not let it stand though

HeIenaDove · 12/10/2020 19:37

@BIWI They are wrong. If you go to a forum called The Fashion Spot they discuss on there the lack of representation of BAME people there have been in magazines. Some magazines (my favourite one Red included) had to hold their hands up and admit that they hadnt done enough and in Reds August issue they said they would from then on do better.

There has been a real lack of representation for a long time.

BakedCam · 12/10/2020 19:39

Yes there was@BakedCam. It was really quite shocking - but MNHQ did delete rather than let racist posts stand

Good. MN does delete as they have a team of paid moderators. It is more noticeable on a little site that has one person at the helm who doesn't have a team behind them.

While people are happily copying and pasting from the site that shall not be mentioned, some people in this thread are and have been doing exactly what they're complaining the other site did.

I'm really curious why it is that site that is getting all the bad stuff, when largely, it was people getting along, aside from a handful of threads.

Some allegations have been made.

Shooglywheel · 12/10/2020 19:47

I think admin opened it up so people could see what had been said.
It’s very dangerous to make accusations of racism unless you can back it up with evidence.
Disagreeing with the opinions of someone who just happens to be from another culture is not racism. Otherwise we would never be able to have a sensible debate where 2 parties have a differing viewpoints.
Verbally attacking colour, race, culture etc, however, is racism.

Alabamawhirly1 · 12/10/2020 19:55

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BakedCam · 12/10/2020 19:59

Try the post about cancel culture and freedom of speech. Or how shocking that a black presenter is taking over from a white one on Question of Sport

Rousette,

I understand from what you've said earlier that you have had some direct experience from certain quarters.

However, cancel culture - often discussed on FWR, credible media outlets and other forums - so I think that's a current topic discussed on many areas of the Internet as it is a problem.

The QoS issue was also discussed widely in the media.

I think it largely unfair to put that down to one little forum that had a small user base where it is easier to pick it apart.

Isn't it time that place and this, stopped tearing each other apart?

BaldricksCoffee · 12/10/2020 20:03

@Quaagars

Go on then - what was it, exactly? would you care to provide some evidential proof?

These kind of "questions" do my head in.
It doesn't matter how much proof is provided, it's always going to be "that's not proof. Nowt wrong with that. Try again."
Never, ever see it, however much "evidence" they get.

Go and get the evidence and lets have a look then.
TheSeedsOfADream · 12/10/2020 20:11

We've seen the proof. Over there. Over here.
Every single person Simon names ought to be prosecuted for racial hatred.

Roussette · 12/10/2020 20:13

I have nothing against cancel culture being discussed but some of the posts on there were really unpleasant. Similar to the one linked above. And the insults about the new QoS presenter too which I am sure was not discussed in the media in the same way as over there. Calling her a 'random box ticker' and a 'POC that no one gives a shit about'.
This is a professional sportswoman that's being maligned.

However, happy to stop tearing each other apart, absolutely. As long as what the faults were on there aren't denied.

I am encouraged that some posters from there have said the obsession with MN and its posters has to stop.

MillieVanilla · 12/10/2020 20:14

@Alabamawhirly1

Then she posted why is there an effort to get me banned, begging admin to answer. They did by banning her. Then the names here were gleeful, laughing at getting her banned. One joke about Boris Johnson, one single joke. That was all they needed to make me friend so upset.

Sorry but your friend didn't make one joke about borris Johnson. She said that Carrie should expect to be cheated on because she can't please Boris with her post child birth vagina.

Only she said it using the most vulgar terms.

Other mums were rightly offended by this and your friend was then incredibly aggressive and rude in response.

No she wasn't, she repeatedly said it was a joke, and that far worse things had been said previously, and that was before the disgusting racism. Another poster then said she found it funny and she was abused too.

I really hope our Mods are keeping a close eye on names of obvious interlopers ready to remove.

It descended into days of abuse when she had ceased to respond, goading and goading.
I'm aware she plans on calling admin out again on the only thread open so let's see if they bother to respond or if the usual lot bitch and snipe again.

HeIenaDove · 12/10/2020 20:14

I dont agree. Posting it will just excite the racists more. If people cant take my word for it that i just didnt see it im happy to accept these sites are no longer for me and to pull the plug on the whole lot.

NO ONE has asked me why i never click on the Harry and Meghan threads on this site. Im being got at for behaving exactly in the same way on both sites.

Roussette · 12/10/2020 20:14

Sorry that was to BakedCam

TabithaTadpole · 12/10/2020 20:15

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PenelopePorcupine · 12/10/2020 20:17

@TheSeedsOfADream

We've seen the proof. Over there. Over here. Every single person Simon names ought to be prosecuted for racial hatred.
Except it seems @SimonJT has been twisting the truth somewhat.
HeIenaDove · 12/10/2020 20:18

Thats disgusting. AS me on here and you will see ive discussed misogyny many times on the Feminism and Relationships board (i stopped posting on that board altogether after my personal life also got ripped apart on Reddit) I cant stand Boris but have nothing against Carrie. She does a lot for conservation and is an animal lover.

BakedCam · 12/10/2020 20:22

It is okay, Rousette. I worked out it was in response to me.

I am too, encouraged- have just seen those messages. The problem with a small forum is that things stand out more. Many were happily members of both sites. On a bigger forum, it doesn't stand out so much. That's not to say that it doesn't happen. People are measuring what happens here to a small forum. People are upset as they felt it was a safe place for them to receive support. That has been whipped away from them. Some on MN think that's fair. I don't. We never know what goes on behind a keyboard.

I hope you manage to find some peace in all of this too. Flowers

MillieVanilla · 12/10/2020 20:23

@HeIenaDove

Thats disgusting. AS me on here and you will see ive discussed misogyny many times on the Feminism and Relationships board (i stopped posting on that board altogether after my personal life also got ripped apart on Reddit) I cant stand Boris but have nothing against Carrie. She does a lot for conservation and is an animal lover.
She made a joke that previously, before that site was taken over wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. Yet you had a male on there be racist and abusive to more than one female and about females here and that's fine by you? I'm sorry but as someone who skipped over to it at the 1st sign of a posting ban I don't think you're in a position to comment.
HeIenaDove · 12/10/2020 20:27

I didnt I joined Reddit first which some of you are on.

I was banned from here for calling out ableism.

I will repeat my earlier question. Has any of you bee banned from here for calling out racism?

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