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To think some women automatically see attractive women as a threat to their relationships?

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MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:09

I’ve noticed that when you’re considered an attractive woman, simply being around certain couples can create unnecessary tension. It’s almost as though some women assume you must be interested in their partner or that their partner must be interested in you, purely because of how you look. I’ve experienced this sort of thing since I was a teenager and I find it incredibly irritating.

I’ve never pursued another woman’s partner, never had an affair with someone else’s partner and never behaved in a way that would suggest I was interested. Yet sometimes it feels as though your mere presence is enough for people to make assumptions about your intentions.

AIBU to think it’s unfair to treat other women as potential threats simply because you find them attractive?

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Notanotherusername2626 · Today 07:13

I think it’s probably more nuanced than that.

I wouldn’t be worried about any woman talking to my husband. I wonder if it’s more about trust or previous experience.

What makes you sure the tension is because you’re attractive?

NestofVapers · Today 07:15

Sounds like a load of patriarchal bollocks to me. I've never seen another woman,.no matter how attractive, as a threat to my relationship because my husband isn't a pervy creep.

Perhaps if you have lived your life very conscious of your good looks, it's you who sees other women as threatening and therefore you read things into situations that simply aren't there?

Lookingforwardtospringnextyear · Today 07:16

Surely they are not making assumptions about YOUR intentions? They are making assumptions about the intentions of their partner because they do not trust them.

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:19

Notanotherusername2626 · Today 07:13

I think it’s probably more nuanced than that.

I wouldn’t be worried about any woman talking to my husband. I wonder if it’s more about trust or previous experience.

What makes you sure the tension is because you’re attractive?

Trust and previous experiences can play a part, and I’m certainly not suggesting that every woman reacts this way. It’s more about the noticeable shift in behaviour I’ve experienced from certain women when their partners are present, despite my not having done anything to warrant it. Of course, I can’t know exactly what someone else is thinking but when there’s an apparent change in attitude towards you simply because you’re around their partner, it does make you question what’s driving it. My point is that another woman’s attractiveness shouldn’t automatically be perceived as a threat to a relationship.

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EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 07:21

It is possible that they are jealous of you or you are over complicating things because of vanity or insecurity.
I have a friend who believes a lot of men are attracted to her, they aren’t. DH is a bit scared of her.

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:21

NestofVapers · Today 07:15

Sounds like a load of patriarchal bollocks to me. I've never seen another woman,.no matter how attractive, as a threat to my relationship because my husband isn't a pervy creep.

Perhaps if you have lived your life very conscious of your good looks, it's you who sees other women as threatening and therefore you read things into situations that simply aren't there?

I find it interesting that you’ve interpreted my observation about certain women’s behaviour as evidence that I must somehow view other women as threats myself. I’m perfectly capable of recognising that another woman is attractive without feeling threatened by her and I don’t regard other women as competition. I’m also not suggesting that every woman behaves this way or that every man is incapable of respecting the boundaries of his relationship.

I’m describing a pattern of behaviour I’ve encountered since my teenage years. You may not have experienced it yourself but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I’d also argue that the patriarchal element here is the idea that women should regard one another as romantic or sexual competition simply because men are present.

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AhBiscuits · Today 07:21

So you're just assuming the change in vibe is because you are super hot?

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:22

Lookingforwardtospringnextyear · Today 07:16

Surely they are not making assumptions about YOUR intentions? They are making assumptions about the intentions of their partner because they do not trust them.

I think both can be true. A woman might distrust her partner’s intentions while simultaneously making assumptions about another woman’s intentions.

The issue is when that distrust manifests as hostility, suspicion or a change in behaviour towards a woman who hasn’t actually done anything to warrant it.

If the underlying concern is that your partner might be attracted to someone else, surely that’s an issue to address within your relationship rather than projecting it onto a third party? Someone else’s relationship insecurities shouldn’t automatically become another woman’s problem.

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Dweetfidilove · Today 07:25

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 07:21

It is possible that they are jealous of you or you are over complicating things because of vanity or insecurity.
I have a friend who believes a lot of men are attracted to her, they aren’t. DH is a bit scared of her.

Oh dear- she's miscalculated that! What about her scares him?

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:26

AhBiscuits · Today 07:21

So you're just assuming the change in vibe is because you are super hot?

No, I’m describing a pattern I’ve observed over the years, not claiming that every change in someone’s behaviour must be attributable to my appearance. Obviously, I can’t know precisely what motivates another person’s behaviour, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider jealousy or insecurity as possible explanations when someone becomes noticeably uncomfortable or hostile towards you in the presence of their partner. There’s a difference between recognising that attractiveness can influence social dynamics and assuming that every interaction revolves around your looks.

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NestofVapers · Today 07:27

'I’d also argue that the patriarchal element here is the idea that women should regard one another as romantic or sexual competition simply because men are present.' .Well, yes that's exactly what I'm arguing. YOU are the one buying into this. You are assuming that women see you as romantic or sexual competition. Once you've bought into that concept it's easy to convince yourself it's the motivation behind the way other women behave towards you.

anotherdayanotherissue · Today 07:29

I would say its insecurity. From my experience, given half the chance most men would go there if they could/wouldnt get caught….most women know this deep down, so keep other women who are deemed a threat as far away as poss.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 07:30

I don't think it is women they view as attractive per se. In my experience, I've had a lot of women who find it threatening when their partner has close female friends, or sadly, even close female relatives. Especially when they do not have male friends or relatives that they are close to.

Some people think that men and women have so little in common that they'd only spend time together in order to mate.

Toomanywomen · Today 07:31

If there is tension, why do you put it down to looks rather than your personality or sense of humour?

theresnolimits · Today 07:32

I find this laughable. I wonder if the way OP behaves around men is what is raising hackles?

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:33

NestofVapers · Today 07:27

'I’d also argue that the patriarchal element here is the idea that women should regard one another as romantic or sexual competition simply because men are present.' .Well, yes that's exactly what I'm arguing. YOU are the one buying into this. You are assuming that women see you as romantic or sexual competition. Once you've bought into that concept it's easy to convince yourself it's the motivation behind the way other women behave towards you.

You’re conflating recognising a particular social dynamic with subscribing to it. They’re not the same thing.

Acknowledging that some women may perceive other women as romantic or sexual competition doesn’t mean I personally view relationships through that lens or believe women should compete for male attention.

I’m describing behaviour I’ve encountered and offering a possible explanation for it. I’m not claiming to have access to anyone’s private thoughts nor am I suggesting that every negative interaction with another woman must be motivated by jealousy. But equally, I don’t think it’s reasonable to dismiss the possibility of jealousy or insecurity simply because acknowledging it makes you uncomfortable. There’s a difference between questioning my interpretation of someone’s behaviour, which is perfectly fair, and insisting that my interpretation must be evidence of my own insecurities, which is rather speculative in itself.

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TheChosenTwo · Today 07:34

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 07:21

It is possible that they are jealous of you or you are over complicating things because of vanity or insecurity.
I have a friend who believes a lot of men are attracted to her, they aren’t. DH is a bit scared of her.

this has made me properly laugh, I have a friend who’s really attractive and is constantly telling me that that bloke over there has been staring at her all evening and this bloke next to us is about to ask her for her phone number - she’s usually spot on too!
dh finds her a bit scary 😂 any time she’s round at ours he makes a polite excuse to leave asap 😂

Lexibletheflexible · Today 07:36

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:33

You’re conflating recognising a particular social dynamic with subscribing to it. They’re not the same thing.

Acknowledging that some women may perceive other women as romantic or sexual competition doesn’t mean I personally view relationships through that lens or believe women should compete for male attention.

I’m describing behaviour I’ve encountered and offering a possible explanation for it. I’m not claiming to have access to anyone’s private thoughts nor am I suggesting that every negative interaction with another woman must be motivated by jealousy. But equally, I don’t think it’s reasonable to dismiss the possibility of jealousy or insecurity simply because acknowledging it makes you uncomfortable. There’s a difference between questioning my interpretation of someone’s behaviour, which is perfectly fair, and insisting that my interpretation must be evidence of my own insecurities, which is rather speculative in itself.

We know this is true because on this very site we have numerous threads about women who want a way to come between their boyfriend and his female friend(s).

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:36

Toomanywomen · Today 07:31

If there is tension, why do you put it down to looks rather than your personality or sense of humour?

I haven’t suggested that appearance is the only possible explanation for tension between people nor do I assume that every negative interaction must be rooted in jealousy. I’m describing a particular pattern where someone’s behaviour towards me appears to change specifically in the presence of their partner, despite there being no obvious change in my own behaviour.

If the issue were simply my personality or sense of humour, I’d expect that reaction to be relatively consistent regardless of whether their partner was present. Of course, I can’t know someone’s precise motivations but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider the circumstances when trying to understand a noticeable change in behaviour.

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MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:38

theresnolimits · Today 07:32

I find this laughable. I wonder if the way OP behaves around men is what is raising hackles?

And what exactly have I said that would lead you to conclude that my behaviour around men is inappropriate? I’ve explicitly stated that I’ve never pursued another woman’s partner or behaved in a way that would suggest I was interested.

It’s interesting that rather than considering the possibility that some women might experience jealousy or insecurity in their relationships, you’ve immediately speculated that I must be behaving inappropriately around men. Of course, you’re entitled to question my interpretation of these situations but inventing behaviour on my part to explain them isn’t particularly constructive.

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Thepeopleversuswork · Today 07:38

This sounds like a very thinly veiled stealth boast and a huge oversimplification. Any comment which begins “some women think/believe” suggests reductive misogyny and this one didn’t disappoint.

Conventional attractiveness is significantly overstated as a trigger for infidelity anyway in my view. People who are seeking to cheat rarely make a beeline for the hottest person in the room. Sexual attraction doesn’t really work like that.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 07:39

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 07:38

This sounds like a very thinly veiled stealth boast and a huge oversimplification. Any comment which begins “some women think/believe” suggests reductive misogyny and this one didn’t disappoint.

Conventional attractiveness is significantly overstated as a trigger for infidelity anyway in my view. People who are seeking to cheat rarely make a beeline for the hottest person in the room. Sexual attraction doesn’t really work like that.

Some women think other women are hot

MISOGYNY

Sartre · Today 07:43

It comes from a place of insecurity. In ways it’s quite primal - you’re better than me therefore might steal MY man. I’ve found married men can act this way too, it’s quite weird. Some of my colleagues act strangely around me and avoid spending time alone with me. It kind of creeps me out because it suggests if we were ever alone, they’d find it difficult to control themselves or something? I don’t know. It is a problem though, yes and you’re not imagining it.

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:44

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 07:38

This sounds like a very thinly veiled stealth boast and a huge oversimplification. Any comment which begins “some women think/believe” suggests reductive misogyny and this one didn’t disappoint.

Conventional attractiveness is significantly overstated as a trigger for infidelity anyway in my view. People who are seeking to cheat rarely make a beeline for the hottest person in the room. Sexual attraction doesn’t really work like that.

I think you’ve misunderstood the point I’m making. I’m not suggesting that attractive women are inherently more likely to be involved in infidelity nor that men automatically pursue the most attractive woman in the room. In fact, I agree with you that sexual attraction and infidelity are considerably more complex than that.

I’m talking about perception rather than the actual likelihood of infidelity. Whether someone genuinely poses a threat to a relationship and whether they’re perceived as one are two entirely different things.

I also find it rather reductive to suggest that discussing certain patterns of behaviour among women is automatically misogynistic. Women are individuals, capable of experiencing jealousy, insecurity and behaving unfairly towards one another, just as men are. Acknowledging that doesn’t mean condemning women collectively.

And as for the accusation of stealth boasting, I don’t see why acknowledging one’s own attractiveness should automatically invalidate an observation about how other people behave. I’m talking about the assumptions people make, not about establishing who is the most attractive person in the room.

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Lexibletheflexible · Today 07:45

MyOpalTurtle · Today 07:44

I think you’ve misunderstood the point I’m making. I’m not suggesting that attractive women are inherently more likely to be involved in infidelity nor that men automatically pursue the most attractive woman in the room. In fact, I agree with you that sexual attraction and infidelity are considerably more complex than that.

I’m talking about perception rather than the actual likelihood of infidelity. Whether someone genuinely poses a threat to a relationship and whether they’re perceived as one are two entirely different things.

I also find it rather reductive to suggest that discussing certain patterns of behaviour among women is automatically misogynistic. Women are individuals, capable of experiencing jealousy, insecurity and behaving unfairly towards one another, just as men are. Acknowledging that doesn’t mean condemning women collectively.

And as for the accusation of stealth boasting, I don’t see why acknowledging one’s own attractiveness should automatically invalidate an observation about how other people behave. I’m talking about the assumptions people make, not about establishing who is the most attractive person in the room.

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