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flowngo · 2023-10-02T20:26:54+00:00

Posting for traffic as spooked - Have spoken to my best friend who's a GP but also posting to see if anyone has experienced similar. This eve was waiting for my boyfriend to ring me to catch up about some future plans, we had been together with my child earlier this eve, low key dinner and chill time, no alcohol etc. around 2030 I thought I will just go up to bed (out of character for me at 2030) and he can wake me up to chat later on. As I thought this, I had a phone call from him, except it was like a pocket dial as he sounded a little far away but he was saying things like "...stripper pole and don't give me any bullshit about not drinking, I know you drank in Barcelona" - of course I was immediately thinking is he ok, has he been drinking, who is he talking to, what's going on. I hung up and immediately texted to say call me asap, and googled intense deja vu to see what on earth was happening. The words were consistent with something we would have a bit of a row about a good while back. He rang me and said he hadn't realised he had pocket dialled me, and was confused about the narrative I had heard. Of course I was completely spooked by this, my friend said to contact the GP tomorrow morning, I know that Neuro won't see me overnight at ED so unless I have any symptoms of an upcoming seizure I'm not sure what to do!

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 10:22

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 00:33

Was thinking more a bug in the audio of her partner’s phone. Something along lines of this post https://community.oneplus.com/thread/1433761
but nobody seems to think it’s a phone issue and more likely the partner is a gaslighting weirdo or OP is having a psychotic episode.

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I hardly doubt it. Sounds like a massive reach

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 10:28

Ok this has really been bugging me - I like a mystery! I know I’ve banged in about this being technical but thinking what you said about your BF’s phone having a short charging lifespan - this is an indicator of it being hacked!

Copied this off the net ‘With control of your phone number, the hacker not only can receive messages on your behalf — but also send messages, make calls, and access your accounts’

Sounds like a hacker made the call and is playing a past conversation they listened in to (playing from another device) down the phone to you!

ClawedButler · 03/10/2023 10:33

I do think you need to see your GP, but not because you're having sudden onset hallucinations - because you are clearly struggling at the moment.

Gently, I am concerned about possible signs of a reality break or a manic episode. I think the simplest explanation, and the most likely, is that you had a waking dream in which you genuinely got a butt dial but your brain filled in the rant. To immediately leap to the conclusion that you need to see a neurologist is what worries me.

I think the jumbled thoughts, leaping to bizarre conclusions, assuming you must be right and everyone else is wrong, and odd word choices are possible signs that all is not well. Hopefully you're just more tired and stressed than you thought (grief is a funny thing, and doesn't follow expected patterns) and a proper rest will be all you need.

Go well, lovey, and take care of yourself. Perhaps it's that "work through illness at all costs" ethic that's contributed to how you're feeling now - you are allowed to rest, you're a human, not a robot.

Batalax · 03/10/2023 10:37

andynarwhal · 03/10/2023 10:17

I must be missing a trick here but how is it a hypnogogic hallucination when there is clear evidence of a call lasting 28s on both phones.
OP just ask your boyfriend why he was rehashing an old argument when he accidentally called you. Maybe he's embarrassed to have been caught having a grumble but better that than have you convinced you're having some sort of episode.

The phone ringing could have happened as she was falling asleep and became part of the hallucination?

I don’t know. On my first post I also said it’s more likely that she heard a genuine phone call because there is proof of an actual phone call. I mentioned hypnogogic hallucinations again because of the two posters who do sound as if that’s what they experienced.

Batalax · 03/10/2023 10:40

Or the phone semi woke her and it was incorporated in the dream/hallucination.

overdrawn · 03/10/2023 10:57

ClawedButler · 03/10/2023 10:33

I do think you need to see your GP, but not because you're having sudden onset hallucinations - because you are clearly struggling at the moment.

Gently, I am concerned about possible signs of a reality break or a manic episode. I think the simplest explanation, and the most likely, is that you had a waking dream in which you genuinely got a butt dial but your brain filled in the rant. To immediately leap to the conclusion that you need to see a neurologist is what worries me.

I think the jumbled thoughts, leaping to bizarre conclusions, assuming you must be right and everyone else is wrong, and odd word choices are possible signs that all is not well. Hopefully you're just more tired and stressed than you thought (grief is a funny thing, and doesn't follow expected patterns) and a proper rest will be all you need.

Go well, lovey, and take care of yourself. Perhaps it's that "work through illness at all costs" ethic that's contributed to how you're feeling now - you are allowed to rest, you're a human, not a robot.

Definitely this ^

I've also been quite unsettled by this thread (and I don't get unsettled by MN threads usually!) and had a look at your previous posts OP (I also don't normally do this but it just seemed like there was something going on). It sounds like you have been through some pretty life changing events this year. I think it's likely you're under more stress than you are admitting to yourself (which is entirely understandable given the circumstances). Please look after yourself and see a GP (one who isn't your friend or a colleague).

AlphabettySoop · 03/10/2023 11:05

jenpil · 03/10/2023 04:10

So, the shop wasn't there either?

You'd imagined the whole thing?

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The shop existed, it was a shop I used a lot. But my brain had completely fabricated this shortcut/path to it. It was one of the weirdest things that's ever happened to me. GP did give the event a name but I can't remember what it was now.

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 11:21

I have just read other incidents of people answering calls of past conversations that have been recorded by a hacker through spyware.

You will never detect a spying app on your phone. You might notice the battery runs down faster or the phone is warmer than usual. That’s about it.

What can a spying app do? Literally anything that is on your phone is theirs. They can get recordings of all calls, get all messages even from things like WhatsApp. They can take photos with the camera and not store them on the phone. They can listen to what is happening near the phone as well. Oh, and they can grab all your photos, contacts and anything else.

How do you get rid of such a thing? You need to wipe the phone and reinstall apps, reload photos and contacts. You cannot do this with a backup and restore - you would just be restoring the spying app.

QuestionableMouse · 03/10/2023 11:39

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 10:28

Ok this has really been bugging me - I like a mystery! I know I’ve banged in about this being technical but thinking what you said about your BF’s phone having a short charging lifespan - this is an indicator of it being hacked!

Copied this off the net ‘With control of your phone number, the hacker not only can receive messages on your behalf — but also send messages, make calls, and access your accounts’

Sounds like a hacker made the call and is playing a past conversation they listened in to (playing from another device) down the phone to you!

This is a very large leap and I'm not sure a crap battery is a sign of anything other than a crap battery. People don't just hack random phones!

Ozarkz · 03/10/2023 11:59

TheLadyofShalott1 · 03/10/2023 08:50

I'm sorry to say this @flowngo, and I really hope that I am wrong, but I just don't/can't believe in coincidences, and I also don't think that your description of what happened points in any way to a neurological "happening". So unlike many other PPs here I only have one explanation, which is that:

Your (D)P is not at all who you think he is, in fact he may have his own serious mental health issues. I think that he deliberately phoned you when he knew he was due a Tesco delivery - then put his phone in his pocket so that he could claim it was an accidental phone call - then as soon as the delivery driver went away he acted out his little scheme to make you feel like you are going mad, ie he is gaslighting you on purpose.

Your boyfriend lives on his own in a remote area, therefore he has no near neighbours?
How much has this laid back and lovely guy - except when he has one of his rants - told you about any of his previous girlfriends/partners/wives? Have any of them ever lived with him in his remote property?

Of course he is most likely to lie to you again about the "phone call" if you ask him directly about it. Therefore you may need to do some skillful skirting around his past etc, but then if you do that you have already lost your trust in him. So do you care enough about this relationship with him to do some careful digging about him?

Perhaps you could have a "girly" lunch in town with his mother, and gently, in a girlfriendly (getting more serious relationship wise with her DS) way, ask what he was like as a baby (maybe asking with a little laugh if has she any embarrassing photos of him as a baby etc - just to seem like a normal thing a girlfriend might say) and things like did he enjoy school etc. Obviously you shouldnt come out with loads of questions about him, and certainly not in a bullet point way, but between talking about other things and maybe sharing some things about your own childhood, then leading on to one or two things about her son's childhood. Then eventually say something about you being amazed that he hasn't already been snapped up by someone else, adding that maybe you have a Guardian Angel who has been keeping him just for you! But you obviously need to be very subtle about it.

Do you care enough about him to go to that sort of effort to find out more about him, or do you trust that he never lies to you, so you don't need to? Whatever else happens, if you continue your relationship with him, could you please not stay alone with him again at his place until you are far more sure about him. Maybe I am paranoid myself, but even if I am it doesn't mean that 'they' are not out to get you or me...
Good luck OP with your decision making 💐

WTF? You sound more nuts than the OP!! Bizarre!

Ozarkz · 03/10/2023 12:01

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 10:28

Ok this has really been bugging me - I like a mystery! I know I’ve banged in about this being technical but thinking what you said about your BF’s phone having a short charging lifespan - this is an indicator of it being hacked!

Copied this off the net ‘With control of your phone number, the hacker not only can receive messages on your behalf — but also send messages, make calls, and access your accounts’

Sounds like a hacker made the call and is playing a past conversation they listened in to (playing from another device) down the phone to you!

???!!

this thread is getting more and more bizarre as it goes on

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 12:09

QuestionableMouse · 03/10/2023 11:39

This is a very large leap and I'm not sure a crap battery is a sign of anything other than a crap battery. People don't just hack random phones!

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It does happen more than you think. Phones can be compromised and adding more apps can give a hacker more gateway. I’ve read of people answering a call only to hear their previous conversation being played back to them.

The OP stated it sounded like a faraway recording with a tinny sound (she even checked to see if her phone was playing a video) and says it was exact wording her partner had used months ago. I don’t think you would remember 30 seconds of a whole conversation from 5 months away.

BlurredEdges · 03/10/2023 12:13

Op. I remember your previous very long thread. You have been through some very traumatic experiences and i think there is a long history of mental and social health issues.

You have only known this man since May.

I think you need urgent mental health care.

londonguild · 03/10/2023 12:13

This whole thread and the responses is totally bizarre!!

Highlighta · 03/10/2023 12:21

OP, I hope that you have been able to see someone whilst at work today.

The mind is incredibly powerful at times, and while under stress this can be even more magnified.

You have been through a lot, please do not brush of anxiety and stress. I myself have been in some very awkward situations that I do not recall doing and I have been in situations where I was absolutely convinced of something, that didn't even happen. I was admitted to hospital after, and it was not physical health related. It was mental health related.

You can be processing things in your head that do not make sense. Anxious waiting for his call at the time without realising?

Would it be a plausible option to step back from your relationship somewhat. I am not blaming him for what has happened, I just get the feeling that you are not in the right space to be in a relationship right now.

Kissmas · 03/10/2023 15:49

"maybe asking with a little laugh if has she any embarrassing photos of him as a baby etc"

inamarina · 03/10/2023 16:12

Kissmas · 03/10/2023 15:49

"maybe asking with a little laugh if has she any embarrassing photos of him as a baby etc"

Exactly. Such a bizarre suggestion.

Beachwalker66 · 03/10/2023 16:19

I don’t understand your determination to place this as some kind of medical episode.

Your DP did call you that’s an established fact. You heard something that sounded like shopping being put away, then his voice addressing a situation you had resolved a few months ago.

Either he was ranting to himself about it, or he was talking to a third party about a similar issue, or it was a recording.

AliciaLime · 03/10/2023 16:49

If you hadn’t had the thought to go to bed directly before what would you have decided about the phone call?

BlurredEdges · 03/10/2023 17:43

Beachwalker66 · 03/10/2023 16:19

I don’t understand your determination to place this as some kind of medical episode.

Your DP did call you that’s an established fact. You heard something that sounded like shopping being put away, then his voice addressing a situation you had resolved a few months ago.

Either he was ranting to himself about it, or he was talking to a third party about a similar issue, or it was a recording.

Advanced Search is helpful here.

SpidersAreShitheads · 03/10/2023 21:40

BlurredEdges · 03/10/2023 17:43

Advanced Search is helpful here.

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Advanced search was indeed very enlightening, especially posts under the previous name. Thank you Blurred.

Given the OP’s history, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this were some kind of mental health issue. PP were spot on to mention her very unusual presentation. There is much more to the OP’s circumstances than she’s described here.

Danielle8p · 03/10/2023 21:52

@flowngo could it be possible that he recorded your argument previously then when he accidently pocket dialled you it somehow was playing the recording?

cuppycakey · 03/10/2023 22:20

OP hasn’t been entirely honest about this relationship or their health, so there’s not much point in the thread as nobody can advise properly (assuming previous threads and comments are truthful)

VanGoghsDog · 03/10/2023 23:27

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 12:09

It does happen more than you think. Phones can be compromised and adding more apps can give a hacker more gateway. I’ve read of people answering a call only to hear their previous conversation being played back to them.

The OP stated it sounded like a faraway recording with a tinny sound (she even checked to see if her phone was playing a video) and says it was exact wording her partner had used months ago. I don’t think you would remember 30 seconds of a whole conversation from 5 months away.

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Neither the poster nor her dp would remember exact words from 5 months ago. So her saying the were the exact words has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

MeMyselfandI2 · 04/10/2023 03:05

I mean this with the greatest respect, but OP do you have a drinking problem? It’s the only way all of this makes sense to me. An argument about drinking- you saying he complained about you not drinking with him, but was it perhaps him asking you not to drink because of issues which arose when you drank with friends? A phone call where you believe he was again frustrated about your drinking- did you drink and that’s why you went to bed early? Etc. Again, I mean no offense.