Intense dejavu episode

OP....you're right. I truly understand how it feels. I dont think its fair to go into the relationship or gaslighting. When you get that feeling in your head about health concerns you feel everyone is gaslighting you. My thoughts were like "i know more as patient x in bed 4 has 2 months to live after a weird deja vu thing...you non health care people are living in ignorant bliss "

My family, friends and husband were very much like most in this post and said to me endless times how many times they get dead arms/pins and needles. But when you ate in that mindset there is nothing that helps. Please take all these comments as nothing but care and compassion.

It probably isnt in your head, whatever happened. Its real TO you. I recognise when i get stressed or worried i get tingly. My GP helped by saying it IS real but not the cause you think...its your minds way of malfunctioning as its overused. Think a phone overheating from overuse...its takes ages to work properly.

My best advice is to step back and read your post how someone else would and how you would think. The fact you have replied so quickly to every post despite the hours indicates you are desperately seeking advice/reassurance or if anything like me, hoping a neuro specialist or GP comes in with their advice. That is CLASSIC health anxiety. You are clearly in health care and i think you really need to reflect if you have been thinking about a young patient or particularly harrowing/unusual neuro case you have seen. Thats your mind coping

We sound patronising and gaslighting to you by dismissing your fears but i truly know how you feel. I just cant see any possible way there is anything sinister going on other than stress/you subconsciously trying to process something

Totally agree with Rainbow 890, I think you boyfriend did pocket dial but the conversation that you heard was interpreted in your sleepy state as something in your own subconscious.
It would be crazy to end your relationship over this, seek medical help.

There was no reply because that's what happens when someone pocket dials you. They don't respond to you because they can't hear you.

So my issues aside, if I've asked my bf very clearly, did you do this or not, and he denies all knowledge - do I end things? Do I pass it off as a strange occurrence?
I don't think asking him is necessary. I think you TELL him what you heard. Be clear and don't doubt yourself while doing so. His reaction will be telling. I completely believe you heard what you think you heard and your bf now has the opportunity to give you an explanation.
He was either ranting to himself ( word for word as per original argument and in that case he sounds unhinged) or he was ranting to someone else, again imo, unhinged. Or he has a recording of the original argument, in that case, run a mile

Two things happened ~ you felt unusually tired as early as 20.30 and decided to go to bed .

You had the phone call which was a pocket dial so why do you think he was talking to you , the phone wouldn't be near enough .

I think you said you've had a virus [so many posts to read] so it's probably just a result of that , nothing mysterious .

I don't understand why you're making a mysterious thing of wanting to go to bed at 8.30. You're post viral, it's entirely natural to need more sleep.

I don’t think you meant your post to be funny but, goodness, it is 🤭

If he was capable of ranting at you a few months ago, it isn't out of character for him to rant now, even if he was just talking to himself. People don't change to that extent.

I agree. This is almost more bizarre than the entire thread.

I have had similar, we suffered a traumatic fire. When I was walking round the next day in the light, surveying the devastation, i heard clear as day a walkie-talkie crackling, and a conversation going on. Just mundane conversation between firemen discussing what they were doing, about 30 seconds to a minute long.
I absolutely heard it, but have come to the conclusion it was an auditory hallucination which can be caused by stress - which i was! Absolutely vibrating with nerves at the time.
I know you say you’re not stressed OP, but stress is a funny thing. I’d look at that first before jumping to brain tumours.

I had to come back to this thread this morning as last night it was making me feel really uneasy which I don't think I've ever felt from a Mumsnet thread before! I have no clue what's gone on op but your answers and responses are quite concerning to me even more so than the actual incident. You'll never know exactly what happened but it seems strange even the lead up, going to bed at 8.30 even though not tired and expecting a call and you can't explain why, I dunno it's just strange.

I believe you OP. Could be a spiritual warning or could be some kind of deja vu. Either way, keep your wits about you.

Yes! I can’t stop thinking about it. No idea why.

If it looks like a duck etc etc – and the duck in this scenario is another woman, surely? I find it bizarre that you've jumped to having a neurological condition when the simplest explanation is that he was having a similar row with his other woman as he had with you a few months back.

That is not the simplest explanation!

Right, so the facts that are irrefutable are:

Your phone rang
Your BF pocket dialled you and shows on his call log
The phone call that connected lasted for 28 seconds
You heard your BF talking (ranting)
The call quality was "tinny" and sounded distant

You keep referencing why your BF would talk to you like that when you have had a pleasant day together - but he wasn't talking to you, was he? It was a pocket dial which meant that you weren't intended to hear the conversation. Therefore the change in tone towards you is irrelevant as he wasn't actually talking to you during the pocket dial. He didn't know that he had called you, so therefore he wasn't actually talking to YOU.

It's an enormous coincidence that your "auditory hallucination" coincided with a real telephone call that actually happened. For the same length of time. And that you have had no auditory hallucinations before or since. This suggests that the "hallucination" was an actual thing you really did hear.

Gently, what most people are finding strange is your refusal to accept that your boyfriend might have actually spoken those words. I used to work in a setting which triggered lots of health anxiety in many of us who worked there (the tingling= instant MS diagnosis was a common one!). However, I can't imagine for a second anyone tying themselves in these kinds of knots to avoid facing the most obvious explanation: that it was your BF talking and that he's lying to you.

Can you tell us EXACTLY what you remember hearing? Not a description, but the actual words he used? It might help us to see your perspective, because at the moment it feels like a really peculiar response, even taking into account your FHx and working environment.

The fact you would get checked out - to a limited degree - by a neurologist at work rather than go back to your BF and say "I know you were talking about the argument we had about alcohol, I heard you clearly. Who were you talking to and why?" is inconceivable. If you're very clear with your BF about what you heard, you might get the actual explanation - or at least you should be able to see if he's lying.

A consultant once said to me "if you hear hoofs behind you, don't assume it's a zebra - it's probably just a horse". You're probably familiar with this phrase - I think it really does apply here. You're twisting to find the zebra when there's a horse staring you right in the face. I mean this with the greatest compassion and kindness.

I know this isn’t quite the same thing but sometimes when I’m in bed, feeling drowsy or just relaxed I think I heard my dog bark (I recognise her different barks) but I’ll see that she’s sleeping by my bed and not barking (it’s not other dogs as it sounds like it’s right by my ear and neighbours don’t have dogs). I’ve also been sure I’ve heard my son shout out ‘mum!’ I go to him and find he’s not said it. Yet both sounds have been so clear to me. The brain can play weird tricks on a person.

I’m not really sure what motivation the bf would have for saying those things at this time. I also have never heard of people re-enacting past arguments out loud to themselves (in their head yes, but not out loud). Also surely he was preoccupied with getting the shopping delivery rather than multitasking it with an out loud repeat of an old row. It all sounds very mysterious. Definitely going to be following this thread for updates.

Something very similar happened to me only a couple of weeks ago. One night I wasn't sleeping well for various reasons: my son was ill and I was in his bed but he kept tossing and turning, and my husband had to leave the house in the middle of the night to go pick up a relative from the airport. I was obviously tired because of the broken sleep, and worried about my husband being on the road so late at night. At around 1am in the morning I finally heard him coming back with our relative, and having a conversation with him on the landing about what time to get up in the morning to go to work. I thought he clearly listened to my advice to offer the relative our spare bedroom instead of spending more time on the road to take him home.
I called for my husband, but he didn't hear me and I didn't want to get up and wake my son (who at that point was pretty mush sleeping ON me). So, I just reached out for my phone and sent him a text to say I heard him coming in, son is ok, goodnight.
Then, about an hour later... I heard him again, this time coming in the room completely dressed and alone, saying he just dropped relative at his flat and he was going to bed! He was puzzled about my previous text, as he had only just arrived!!!
I swear that conversation I heard on the landing was SO real, to the point I even sent a text!!! It never happened to me to see or hear things that are not real.

That sounds like a hypnogogic hallucination.

Did you read the link I posted above op? Whilst visual ones are more common, you do get auditory ones too. You were recovering from a virus, acknowledged you were feeling tired enough to think about going to bed. I think you were on the point of falling asleep and experienced one of those. They are surprisingly common and aren’t anything to worry about.

And willwillsmith. It sounds like hypnogogic hallucinations you experience too.

I haven’t read the whole thread but I have sympathy for you op.
We lost our niece to a brain tumour and (since that awful time) as a health anxiety suffer if I have any weird sensations or anything which I feel could be related to my Neuro health, I panic.
I have also suffered years with aura migraines and this has lead to some very strange sensations and episodes in the past (things which I was absolutely convinced had happened but were in fact some kind of migraine aura hallucinations, very frightening). I have also had super low ferritin levels, this had some awfully weird symptoms which left me very unnerved.

Obviously keep a check on things but I’m sure you’ll find whatever it was will be a one off and you will never experience it again.

I think he was ranting to himself about you and what has happened in the past. Replaying the argument you had a few months ago in his head and saying it out loud to himself whilst accidently pocket dialling you.

I must be missing a trick here but how is it a hypnogogic hallucination when there is clear evidence of a call lasting 28s on both phones.
OP just ask your boyfriend why he was rehashing an old argument when he accidentally called you. Maybe he's embarrassed to have been caught having a grumble but better that than have you convinced you're having some sort of episode.