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RedToothBrush Sat 12-Sep-20 18:09:08

I mean its not as if trade deals and human rights are relevant is it?

(sorry eating my dinner so must be brief)

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yoikes Sat 12-Sep-20 18:11:13

Thanks red. Enjoy your dinner!

Whenwillow Sat 12-Sep-20 18:13:48

Early pmk. Its getting madder and madder.

Words Sat 12-Sep-20 18:24:50

Thanks as always RTB. This thread is an island of sanity in a chaotic world.

HesterThrale Sat 12-Sep-20 18:27:03

Thanks Red.
So during the election campaign 10 months ago, when they were pushing the great oven-ready deal, did they know they’d have to go against it in the end?

Or: he just never read and understood it?

Dishonest, or incompetent? Either way...

PawFives Sat 12-Sep-20 18:27:10

Wow previous thread went quickly! Thanks RTB for the new thread. Can’t quite believe where we are now as a country, what will it take for people to wake up!!

Towards the end of the last thread someone mentioned Peron style politics and it reminded me of discussion a while ago about how Argentina was something like the world’s 5th biggest economy and declined rapidly due to a series of bad decisions. Seems familiar doesn’t it.

Choux Sat 12-Sep-20 18:33:36

Buenos Aires even had the only overseas branch of Harrods in the early 20th century. I found it fascinating when I visited. And now I find it somewhat terrifying.

Darker Sat 12-Sep-20 18:33:58


Johnson trying to get the people to accept restrictions at home while drumming up support for his maverick manoeuvres in Brussels... tricky

HoneysuckIejasmine Sat 12-Sep-20 18:35:30

Pmk thanks Red.

ListeningQuietly Sat 12-Sep-20 18:35:41

Food self sufficiency taken to the next level - field mushrooms now growing in my garden smile

dontcallmelen Sat 12-Sep-20 18:38:24

PMK as my thanks Red & all contributors

Words Sat 12-Sep-20 18:39:08

Thanks also for the link provided to the interactive map of local stats.

The tiny village (pop 1800) where mother's care home is located had 20 deaths March to June.

They remained open through Mother's Day when other homes were voluntarily banning visits before national lockdown, and I knew at the time that was a very bad decision. Not, however, that bad.

I do understand that the whole episode was a shambles from a gov point of view but management has to take some responsibility.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst Sat 12-Sep-20 18:48:55

PMK, with special thanks to all the regulars.

I second Words comment about this being an island of sanity.

Pepperwort Sat 12-Sep-20 18:49:35

Brexit trade trouble is starting. Or heating up, i suppose.
“The EU has cast doubt on whether it would grant Britain a "third-country listing" for exports of products of animal origin, citing "uncertainties" over its biosecurity controls.
Such exports are worth £5bn to the UK.”

pointythings Sat 12-Sep-20 18:54:49

I am PMK with purple hair. I had a severe case of fuck it and let the teenagers dye it.

ListeningQuietly Sat 12-Sep-20 18:57:27

need proof wink

BigChocFrenzy Sat 12-Sep-20 18:57:51

Thanks, red 💐

On my Rhine walk just now, I heard a great clattering from behind me and realised this was hooves
- from 2 horses leaving the little Rhine ferry (comes from an island with vineyards)
pulling a carved wooden wagon into our village

JamieLeeCurtains Sat 12-Sep-20 19:02:02


BigChocFrenzy Sat 12-Sep-20 19:03:27

Insight into BJ tactics ?

This is from 2018, when he was Foreign Sec to May's PM - he obviously thinks there is mileage in convincing the EU he's nuts:

U.K. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson praised Donald Trump and said there would be "all sorts of chaos" if the U.S. president was in charge of Brexit.
Johnson was speaking on Wednesday at a closed-door gathering at the Institute of Directors in London,
an audio recording of which was obtained by BuzzFeed News and published Thursday.

Speaking to Tory activists at the event, Johnson said: 
“I am increasingly admiring of Donald Trump. I have become more and more convinced that there is method in his madness.”

“Imagine Trump doing Brexit,” Johnson added. “He’d go in bloody hard … There’d be all sorts of breakdowns, all sorts of chaos. Everyone would think he’d gone mad. But actually you might get somewhere.
It’s a very, very good thought.” hmm

< unfortunately, that is oinly effective, if ever, when the mad leader ha the might of a superpower.
When done by the leader of a medium-sized power in a deep hole, it invites only derision, not fear >

BigChocFrenzy Sat 12-Sep-20 19:06:13

In my 2 post-lockdown haircuts (late May & July) I have had a dramatic undercut
Unusual in a mature woman with completely grey hair
but I'm retired and give even fewer fucks than before.

yoikes Sat 12-Sep-20 19:08:45

My (slightly) blue hair

prettybird Sat 12-Sep-20 19:09:18

PMK with the cat on my lap.

The parallels with Argentina, slipping from in the top 7 of the G7 in the early 20th century to the also-ran economies due to a series of unfortunate political decisions are uncomfortable and becoming ever more likely.

I can just hope that Scotland escapes it sooner rather than later and thus will demonstrate that there is an alternative and better way smile

yoikes Sat 12-Sep-20 19:09:32

I should point out the grey is completely natural ;)

pointythings Sat 12-Sep-20 19:11:49

Ok, here's proof!

yoikes Sat 12-Sep-20 19:14:22

Love it!!

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