Westminstenders: Pah International Law. Who needs it?

[RedToothBrush]

I mean its not as if trade deals and human rights are relevant is it?

(sorry eating my dinner so must be brief)

The ECHR indeed underpins the GFA, but I don't know if the HRA does, even though also from 1998

iirc, the main thing about the HRA is that it incorporated the ECHR into UK law, so that people no longer have to go to the European court in Strasbourg to address breaches of their ECHR.

It has greatly reduced the number of times that a UK govt has been dragged to Strasbourg and told to obey some part of the ECHR

Hmm. By the look of it, he wants to have cake and eat it and no longer have the ECHR and HRA

Ill try and add screen shots larger

And

(and this one more than any other issue has cummings / gove written all over it)

Thanks, red

The government pretends to share - or maybe even shares - the confusion of many other Brexiters about the ECHR and "European judges"

Neither are anything to do with the EU
but most (not Hungary or Poland) EU members will be mightily pissed if the UK dumps the bits of the EHRC it doesn't like

There seems to be a collective memory failure that the Uk was one of the original architects of the EHRC and the ECHR

They've fucked up handling COVID and negotiating "the easiest deal in history"
so it's time to return to the dogwhistle attacks on foreigners
and unpatriotic Remainers and lefties who support human rights

Of course, adults who think the ECHR has some bits that need updating to handle the migrant crisis or any other change since the original ECHR draft,
would .... um, talk to other countries about this and use soft power to have the ECHR amended - as it has been before

Very much following the populist playbook of what to do when you've fucked up your country

• find a dead squirrel to throw on the table

... instead of concentrating on COVID and a post-Brexit trade deal

Love all hair pics and colours! Currently my hair is an inch all over ( it's grown) all because I lost my rag and decided to chop it off! Everyone says how much younger I look so

A reminder. Its the government's job to identify potential problems before we sign agreements. We can’t just tear them up retrospectively because we didnt do our homework on time.

I am loving the sheep quote.

www.rte.ie/amp/1164694/?__twitter_impression=true
Brexit: Boris Johnson, state aid and a 'rushed' treaty

What has taken many in London unawares is that when the Protocol provides for EU state aid rules to apply in Northern Ireland, there can also be a reach-across to the rest of the UK.

In other words, if a future UK government subsidises a large corporation that has subsidiaries in Northern Ireland, then it too is "caught" by EU state aid rules.

Did Boris Johnson and his team fully understand this? Did the EU try to hide it?

The Irish border did, indeed, take most people by surprise. As a result, the Brexit process got bogged down in three years of cantankerous arguments about border technology, exemptions from EU law, drones, and other wizardry, as London struggled to reconcile Brexit with Ireland’s geography and history.

(At one point, the UK government’s Technical Alternative Arrangements Advisory Group was exploring facial recognition for sheep.)

PMK with DCat, who is trying to hide herself from the ongoing shitshow.

Did you hear the one about the government trying to get no deal whilst sending covid swabs to Italian and German labs because we've run out of capacity in the UK (with that apparently being just over 60,000 tests a day - less than Hancock's magical mystery missed target?

Well here it is if you need a laugh.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/leaked-figures-reveal-scale-of-coronavirus-test-shortage-xjxprnm0v

Im so far beyond cynical these days.

Depressing news this morning. And all the sheep bleating it's brilliant because foreigners can be finally deported don't realise it's their rights being taken away too. It's the old who will be left to stand up for you when they come for you...

Also, perhaps a silly question but what is the opposition doing? Not making enough noise imo.

www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/pandemic-intuition-nightmare-spiral-winter/616204/

Long and sobering article from The Atlantic on fatal mistakes America is making in dealing with Covid (aka not dealing with Covid).

Much of what is written here applies to the UK.

A break from early morning teen wrangling to admire the fabulous hair (I want this for me) and cats on here. And to thank Red for their diligence.
And to share a year old pre-Covid sketch that that is still fresh. Particularly with the NI weather report.

That sketch is equally appropriate today - doesn't need a single word altered! In fact, dh was listening to it and chortling as I watched it and didn't realise it was a year old

PMK with the Ste Victoire in the very distant distance, from a hike we did yesterday.
Thanks to RTB and all others for their input.

Gearing up to go on campus tomorrow and face pandemonium, plus fallout from f*cking anti-masker colleagues refusing to wear theirs in classrooms.

@Songsofexperience

Depressing news this morning. And all the sheep bleating it's brilliant because foreigners can be finally deported don't realise it's their rights being taken away too. It's the old who will be left to stand up for you when they come for you...

I think I finally just have to write what I honestly think, as DGR has. People in Britain are just thick, ignorant and unwilling to think. They love revelling in it and think that’s some kind of badge of pride. I do blame the people in power who have dumbed everything down and given people a steady cognitive diet of reality TV and celebrity gossip to thrive on for the last few decades, not to mention forced the development of fast consumerism of all kinds to fill their pockets. What did they think would happen? It’s disgusting, the way they sneer at their own creations.

I just came across another poster who announced blithely that Britain had never had any socialist leanings so I’m having depressed thoughts about the level of ignorance, in a time, we’re told, that education has never been better.

I'm depressed at the media. Andrew Marr now - hectoring tone, simplistic questioning instead of probing and trying to draw out the facts and nuances of the situation.

Education doesn't protect people
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@OhYouBadBadKitten

Do we have a risk of the transition period coming to an abrupt end if we break international law?

I would like to know this too. I’ve planned ahead for food shortages in the spring, but could this come down on our heads at any moment? Is October 15th a date we should be worrying about, or is that just posturing on Johnson’s part?

In rl I had someone with a uni qualification, working in the area he qualified in, tell me universities were pointless not long ago. Sadly I was too dumbstruck to respond. Although there’s a certain justification when they’re primarily there to churn out paper qualifications for entry-level jobs.

Announced on Radio 4 this morning though no one wants to confirm it.....
Government has ordered NHS to reopen all Covid wards by the end of October. They have already started. The Government definately sbricks!
The opposition must stay quiet, after all we want Boris to own every bit of his achievements😂🤣😂🤣

It is rubbish. Human Rights are so important,band I don't understand why people would be happy to see them go.

If the Daily Mail comments are anything to go by this is going to be popular move... just one example:

'At last he's showing some mettle - the majority of British voters will love it and the left will be outraged. Now just get on and do it'

At the risk of stating the obvious, because they think that human rights legislation is something that only other people need and abuse - not something that applies to everyone

I mean, don't they know who we are?!