Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

Why not both? 🤷‍♀️

I'm getting the sense that it would have worked better for SF to have been cross-examined before NP.

Unfortunately, I think all Stuart is proving here is that the RCN exists to pay men like Stuart rather than support nurses like SP.

NC I’m suggesting it was unthinkable to back SP because activists and LGBTQ members would kick off?
SF potentially but disagree
NC it’s because the culture was same as NHS Fife starting to let a man use women’s facilities without consultation. The same reason you didn’t speak to other women in her workplace
SF I could have arr agree to go but I didn’t
NC did you ask the local workplace rep?

Fuck off Stuart! Don’t pretend that you were thinking about Sandie’s privacy!

I'm having another oh fuck off moment.

Snap.

Better for the Respondent?

In the same way yesterday it worked better for Jennifer Melle to go before Bethany Hutchison.

SF asked and no one else has complained
NC but I asked if you asked them to go and find out, rather than sitting on their hands and waiting to see if any complaints
SF the response was a non issue. We may have been more proactive but that was my understanding from across other unions.

It never even entered your head because you believed that Upton had the right to be in the changing room because that was part of the RCN culture!!!!!!

😑

Grrrrr

On both sides! Ha

Oh FUCK OFF!

NC the problem was not about SP disciplinary but wasn’t it the local activists job to find out about feedback re a man in women’s facilities?
SF yes in retrospect
NC circumstances where people have been demonised for saying men can’t be women.
SF I don’t have any indication that’s what they believe. I don’t know if people feel they’ve been demonised
NC you’d have to be living under a stone for the last few years that women who disagree have been threatened with rape and death. Has that passed you by?
SF no indication from any RCN members. I’ve not been told that.

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IT'S NOT COME UP BECAUSE OF THE CULTURE IN THE RCN, STUART!!!!!!!!

[sorry, needed a shout]

Bangs head on desk. I have never seen anyone be so deliberately obtuse...

Suddenly quite chatty whilst he claims there's no possible way he could have known some women had a problem with men in the women's changing room.

NC I think you’ve agreed with me there is a problem of GC women being subjected to a whole range of behaviour
SF in both regards when you go to extremes
NC bullying, harassment, hounding out of jobs of GC women?
SF agree. If you’re asking re our members it’s not something that’s come up

Interesting the comments SF comes out with with no encouragement, eg
Not all TW are dangerous
On both sides

He either knows more than he is letting on, or has been only 'educated' from one side and has no interest in or ability to consider the subject.

fuck off with your both sides pish

We all know a SF or have worked with one. Wilfully ignorant when it suits but pro the fashionable cause to fit in - even at the expense of common sense.

Perhaps if NC drew him a picture in crayon he might understand?

I want to know if he ever put pronouns in his emails?