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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64

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nauticant · 27/09/2026 20:51

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

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Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 10:23

I might as well go do the dishes.

anyone want a cuppa when I'm done?

fanOfBen · 28/09/2026 10:23

I'll go and make my own, that should ensure they start instantly!

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:23

MyThreeWords · 28/09/2026 10:17

The "remote lobby" sounds like a location in the weird castle in Clarke's novel Piranesi. Is it a bit scary being there?

It is when there's a grey screen and nothing else. We're not used to that.

However TT's comments are reassuring. Thank you to them, @fanOfBen and @BettyBooper .

An hour's delay sound significant. I wonder if there are significant problems with the trains, for example, for any counsel and the witnesses who didn't travel up yesterday.

weegielass01 · 28/09/2026 10:23

just milk in mine please, and scottish blend

fanOfBen · 28/09/2026 10:25

There are some small delays at Dundee station but no sign of anything major.

OhBuggerandArse · 28/09/2026 10:28

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:23

It is when there's a grey screen and nothing else. We're not used to that.

However TT's comments are reassuring. Thank you to them, @fanOfBen and @BettyBooper .

An hour's delay sound significant. I wonder if there are significant problems with the trains, for example, for any counsel and the witnesses who didn't travel up yesterday.

Nick has posted photos of all the nurses at the court, so they are there safely.

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:29

On Twitter Nick Wallis has posted a photo of a cheerful group of people outside the court, including today's witnesses.

They are holding banners saying things like "Upholding reality in healthcare," produced by Christian Concern I imagine, as their name is in much smaller print in one corner of the banner.

edit: crossposted with @OhBuggerandArse , sorry.

edit again: Stuart Fraser, for RCN, is appearing today, too. He's not in the photo.

Cholm · 28/09/2026 10:31

Nice Pair
(Lalique salts that is)

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 10:35

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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64
Appalonia · 28/09/2026 10:36

Nothing's happening!

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 10:38

Appalonia · 28/09/2026 10:36

Nothing's happening!

Other than the appearance of the tea trolley, no.

FarriersGirl · 28/09/2026 10:38

Well at least I've managed to wash the kitchen floor, my border collie managed a set of very dirty paw prints across it after our walk earlier.

heathspeedwell · 28/09/2026 10:39

As we're just waiting, may I quickly take the opportunity to say thank you to everyone for your wonderful commentary and all the cutting and pasting?

DauntlessDamson · 28/09/2026 10:40

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 10:35

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This is really annoying! I have to go out at 11 and had hoped to hear from at least one of the nurses before then. I'll just have to catch up in a splurge later this afternoon.

Tea and a Tunnocks teacake to go, please, Boiled.

KTheGrey · 28/09/2026 10:41

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 08:59

I'm 100% sure Stuart Fraser will clear it up this afternoon and be able to produce a list of the many many times they've celebrated gender critical/sex realist views at the RCN, their plans for a green white and purple background RCN badge AND point out where in the bundle the proof they actually sent SP the email, to her actual email address and not a number is.

100% sure.

😶

I am massively looking to this, I have to say.

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:41

Credit to Iain Masterson via Nick Wallis.

Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64
Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64
DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 28/09/2026 10:45

Thanks again everyone, especially nauticant and the copy-pasters Flowers Gin

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:45

Change to my grey screen. I have a big crossed out symbol of a camera now. The one that means the video is off.
The little microphone symbol in the corner is still there and not crossed out.

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 10:45

DauntlessDamson · 28/09/2026 10:40

This is really annoying! I have to go out at 11 and had hoped to hear from at least one of the nurses before then. I'll just have to catch up in a splurge later this afternoon.

Tea and a Tunnocks teacake to go, please, Boiled.

You want a Tea Cake?

Are you sure?

Maybe you'd like a slice of Victoria sponge instead?

What?

You really really want a Tea Cake?

<sobs>

Fine!

Take one!

One I said!

Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64
Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64
nauticant · 28/09/2026 10:46

nauticant and the copy-pasters

It's time to form a band guys.

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SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:46

nauticant · 28/09/2026 10:46

nauticant and the copy-pasters

It's time to form a band guys.

I can play kazoo?

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:47

Boily, which plate are the gluten-free deliciousnesses on?

fanOfBen · 28/09/2026 10:48

Nick says the wifi at the tribunal (and, presumably, more generally, but he doesn't seem to know yet) has blocked his site GenderBlog.net !

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 10:49

SomewhatGlad · 28/09/2026 10:47

Boily, which plate are the gluten-free deliciousnesses on?

They are from the Bluestocking kitchen so ALL OF THEM.

fanOfBen · 28/09/2026 10:49

From TT:

Nurses Jennifer Melle (JM) and Bethany Hutchison (BH) have been photographed outside the ET this morning and are due to be witnesses for the Claimant.
A man's face briefly appeared on the remote screen so we wonder if SP's RCN rep, Stuart Fraser (SF) is today's first witness.

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