Roxy Tickle is a man. I stand with Sall Grover.

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/giggle-for-girls-app-founder-loses-final-appeal-bid-in-landmark-trans-discrimination-case/news-story/7db773b0207192809214c498c8048e9

Sall. ❤

yeah, it was flabbergasting

like, am I going to be living in a country where I have to lie about being able to tell what sex someone is? it was genuinely scary

It was devastating.

But it was, in my mind, the beginning of the turn.

Don't forget that even Julia Gillard has done some backtracking. I think that is one of the chinks in the armour of this stupidity:

Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard says it was 'a different time' when the gender-based changes were made to the Sex Discrimination Act (2013).
This removed the strict biological definition of a man and woman in law.
"If you look at the Parliamentary debates in the changes to the Sex Discrimination Act in 2012, you'll find that the issues you're referring to were not raised by anyone, because they simply weren't a matter of public discourse the way they are today.
"So, it was a different time. It wasn't something squarely before the Parliament at the time that the legislation was being amended.
"So, I think we made an error in uplifting what we know now and public discourse now - and just putting it down 14 years ago."

https://www.facebook.com/SpectatorOz/posts/former-prime-minister-julia-gillard-says-it-was-a-different-time-when-the-gender/1707659814697931/

we made an error

Whoopsie? Who's going to fix it?

Roxanne Tickle is a man. I stand with Sall Grover.

Happy to do some gardening!

"Different time," bollocks to that. Like Scotland - oh, we didn't realise what the GRR bill might actually lead to. Well, they were stupid, blinkered or both - many of us knew exactly what it would lead to, but they refused to listen.

What a load of fat, swinging bollocks. It never occurred to anyone that there were pragmatic reasons for single sex services and facilities? Why on earth what they exist in the first place, then?

Had they no imaginations?

Had they not explored what was happening in other countries? Has they not heard the objections put forward in the UK House of Lords? Most of these conflicts of rights and removals of women’s rights were predicted.

Australians face being taken to the Human Rights Commission/Anti Discrimination Commission for not submitting to GI. Dragged through the courts and disciplined, threatened with jail and huge fines for saying the truth - that no man can be a woman, no woman can be a man, there are 2 sexes only, and no one can change their biological sex observed at birth.

Sall is a legend, and someone I fiercely admire - she has done the most that can be done in our current political and irrational society. I only hope that her courage calls to all of us in Australia, and encourages us to show the same and fight for our basic freedoms and rights.

thank you, Sall.

Tbf people ignored the same here hence we got the GRA.

It’s so lucky the SC ruled as they did thanks to FWS.

Although I do agree whoops we got it wrong is pathetic. How will it be fixed?

Yup. Nobody can give that craven “Oh dear, nobody thought of it” excuse here.

My DH is wearing a low cut top and his hair, which is long, is down today. Bloody hell, he’s turned into a woman!!!

At least 1 of your children is a child of the future. Shame about the other two, do better, be kind.

You be kind to women and children. Do better.

Yes you should consider other children.

Yeah, must be really frustrating that you can't cult wash all the kids anymore eh.

And as to the rest of your bs, you're going to have to try a lot harder that that to shame me mate.

Are you new to this? Or perhaps a time traveller?

Because it's a bit awkward to point this out but #bekind and #dobetter was the go to about 10 years ago and it's kind of passed when everyone realised ignoring sex wasn't kind and it wasn't women who needed to 'do better' when it came to respecting boundaries and not barging about like a man, taking other people's stuff because you feel entitled to it.

And just for future reference... punctuating with claps and saying 'educate yourself' or 'no debate' has also been and gone.

I thought FairAmberEagle was doing a satire.

Yes, this is where it needs to start, then.

Gender ideology can only survive when it operates under the radar.

Once people are allowed to talk about it and ask questions, and the sunlight gets in, it's game over, really.

Yes, it could have been satire. It's easier to tell in person than over the internet.

It's hard to know where the loons end and the comedians begin.in that's place.

I do love the variety though.

I have this idea for an "operation public toilets" action where like-minded women could stick posters on the back of toilet doors (think shopping centres, gyms, swimming pols, etc) with a QR code leading to a web page that succinctly describes the current state in a way that even people who have not even thought about this might be interested enough to learn more. I am trying to find the perfect page... anyone know of any really good pages - should be about Australia...?

Cis is a meaningless term though.

If you have male people such as Caster Semenya being described, as he has, as a cis woman then it is meaningless.

Why the heck was my comment deleted?!