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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Gender war...This didn't come from the streets

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Mmmnotsure · 20/01/2026 09:16

Great summary/description by
Dennis Noel Kavanagh
on X as @Jebadoo2

1/ The Gender war is a class war. Trans activism was confabulated in universities where they'd run out of things to say, it was embraced by the bourgeois management types in HR and it corrupts the same in everything from unions to blue chips. This didn't come from the streets.

2/ Trans activism is indulged and has no central heroic historical point of defiance, so it steals the gay rights claim to Stonewall because at its heart, it's dreadfully aware of just how powerful and privileged it is. It's still really the only cult that can get you sacked

3/ It's the well fed goth teenage Marxist who knows where the next meal is coming from so screams "I hate you mum and dad" before stomping off to its well appointed bedroom. It's the child no one ever said "no" to and so it looks and sounds like precisely that in adversity.

4/ So often we see the low paid nurse against the well paid management or doctor. Or the most marginalised in society who have cause to actually use a rape refuge lectured by the otherwise unemployable bourgeois management class fresh from their stonewall course on pronouns.

5/ So often we see those who oppose gender ideology reliant on crowd funds and real solidarity and union ranged against the state funded, the corporate funded, the behemoth government department or indeed the actual Scottish government in the case of FWS.

6/ Trans activism lies like a fish swims from the transubstantiation sex change foundational lie the rotten edifice sits on, but the most obnoxious lie is that it is somehow marginalised or of the streets and there is nothing more contemptuous than this pretence.

7/ Trans activism routinely hires silks to vilify nurses, it cosplays protest all the time knowing the police and government will tolerate it, so it pretends to take corners on two wheels while being on guard rails. It is well fed, well appointed, well funded and comfortable.

8/ It will never match the real marginalisation of the working class nurse who needs an area to change, a female prisoner who has no choice of cell mate or the average Scottish woman fighting her own damned government. And it knows it. This, I think, is it's greatest jealousy.

OP posts:
Anactor · 21/01/2026 13:22

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 07:00

On the contrary, you have not comprehended anything.

I am looking into my crystal ball…and I am seeing… Gretel… I’m seeing …a man.

Also an overconfident idiot, but that comes under ‘typical sex behaviour differences’.

RhannionKPSS · 21/01/2026 13:27

BunfightBetty · 20/01/2026 11:38

He really nails it.

It needs to be much more widely discussed in these terms. I put a similar argument (though nowhere near as cogent or eloquently argued) to my BeKind niece, who has cried at the thought of the poor trans and how they must be suffering, and it was very interesting to watch the penny drop and see how she was starting to ponder whether she was entirely right.

Can I ask have her opinions changed completely?

inkymoose · 21/01/2026 13:29

Anactor · 21/01/2026 13:22

I am looking into my crystal ball…and I am seeing… Gretel… I’m seeing …a man.

Also an overconfident idiot, but that comes under ‘typical sex behaviour differences’.

Also, as @ThatBlackCat put it, a ChatGPT copy-and-paster. I spent a while wondering if "Gretel" was a bot... although my first thought was that "Gretel" was a university student aiming to write some sort of total eyewash dissertation about how society creates sex differences for their thesis on gender studies. That linked back nicely to the original post!

FlirtsWithRhinos · 21/01/2026 13:30

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/01/2026 13:09

But it's all just special pleading and wangling to achieve the desired goal.

Which is a woman-only space, full of women in a state of undress, in which a man has the desired experience of being somewhere no other man is permitted, granted the secret intimate presence of women in a state of undress around them, and has quite possibly the sexual arousal of perceiving themselves as a woman in a woman's space doing woman things with other women. Or, as I posted on another thread, the arousal of transgressing and harassing women in a way that women aren't allowed to resist. https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1806830538474553616

And the issue is women being permitted any space in which to woman away without a man having access and dominion. The words are meaningless, it's only about getting policy makers to believe enough bollocks to permit the actions and destroy the rights of women and homosexuals in law to enable them.

Still not sure of the point of coming on to a women's rights forum and trying to talk the turkeys into enthusiastic submission to the Christmas Dinner menu, despite that the law protecting women's single sex spaces and definition in law has just been confirmed. So what on earth is supposed to be the outcome? Beyond annoying women?

Edited

Oh yes I know. I just enjoy shining a 1000000 watt torch through whatever filmsy justifications they try to hide it behind.

I think it is helpful for people who see that something doesn't add up without being able to put their finger on it because of the deliberately obfusticated language around sex and gender to have the conversation refocus from "what is a woman? What gives you the right to gatekeep identity? " to "yeah, but female people don't stop existing just because TRAs want the word "woman" to point somewhere else"

One of the way points in my career was some basic c++ coding. It turns out having built the habit of thinking in terms of separate objects and pointers is very helpful here. (Also actually classes, objects, interfaces, inheritance and composition. Maybe I should draw the object model for sex and gender 😂)

inkymoose · 21/01/2026 13:34

FlirtsWithRhinos · 21/01/2026 13:30

Oh yes I know. I just enjoy shining a 1000000 watt torch through whatever filmsy justifications they try to hide it behind.

I think it is helpful for people who see that something doesn't add up without being able to put their finger on it because of the deliberately obfusticated language around sex and gender to have the conversation refocus from "what is a woman? What gives you the right to gatekeep identity? " to "yeah, but female people don't stop existing just because TRAs want the word "woman" to point somewhere else"

One of the way points in my career was some basic c++ coding. It turns out having built the habit of thinking in terms of separate objects and pointers is very helpful here. (Also actually classes, objects, interfaces, inheritance and composition. Maybe I should draw the object model for sex and gender 😂)

I think I love you @FlirtsWithRhinos

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