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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Gender war...This didn't come from the streets

155 replies

Mmmnotsure · 20/01/2026 09:16

Great summary/description by
Dennis Noel Kavanagh
on X as @Jebadoo2

1/ The Gender war is a class war. Trans activism was confabulated in universities where they'd run out of things to say, it was embraced by the bourgeois management types in HR and it corrupts the same in everything from unions to blue chips. This didn't come from the streets.

2/ Trans activism is indulged and has no central heroic historical point of defiance, so it steals the gay rights claim to Stonewall because at its heart, it's dreadfully aware of just how powerful and privileged it is. It's still really the only cult that can get you sacked

3/ It's the well fed goth teenage Marxist who knows where the next meal is coming from so screams "I hate you mum and dad" before stomping off to its well appointed bedroom. It's the child no one ever said "no" to and so it looks and sounds like precisely that in adversity.

4/ So often we see the low paid nurse against the well paid management or doctor. Or the most marginalised in society who have cause to actually use a rape refuge lectured by the otherwise unemployable bourgeois management class fresh from their stonewall course on pronouns.

5/ So often we see those who oppose gender ideology reliant on crowd funds and real solidarity and union ranged against the state funded, the corporate funded, the behemoth government department or indeed the actual Scottish government in the case of FWS.

6/ Trans activism lies like a fish swims from the transubstantiation sex change foundational lie the rotten edifice sits on, but the most obnoxious lie is that it is somehow marginalised or of the streets and there is nothing more contemptuous than this pretence.

7/ Trans activism routinely hires silks to vilify nurses, it cosplays protest all the time knowing the police and government will tolerate it, so it pretends to take corners on two wheels while being on guard rails. It is well fed, well appointed, well funded and comfortable.

8/ It will never match the real marginalisation of the working class nurse who needs an area to change, a female prisoner who has no choice of cell mate or the average Scottish woman fighting her own damned government. And it knows it. This, I think, is it's greatest jealousy.

OP posts:
Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:40

The only reason why there are court cases and why the parliament needs to agree on it is because the social contract around female spaces has been broken by deluded men and their equally deluded supporters. It worked fine before that.

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:41

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 06:34

So if I decide im the queen, I get to be the queen? If not, why not?

In what way do you qualify? Being queen means you would have to be the legitimate first born of the former king or queen.

The qualifications for being more like a man or a woman include typical behaviours.

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:43

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 06:38

Nope sorry. The law is the law. And always has been. Now do you have any other arguments apart from gendered bollocks and inner feels?

Thank you for your 'legal' opinion. For what it's worth.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:46

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:41

In what way do you qualify? Being queen means you would have to be the legitimate first born of the former king or queen.

The qualifications for being more like a man or a woman include typical behaviours.

To qualify being a woman means you need to have the sort of body that developed to produce eggs. In what way does any man qualify for being a woman irrespective of his "consumerist" choices?

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 06:50

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:41

In what way do you qualify? Being queen means you would have to be the legitimate first born of the former king or queen.

The qualifications for being more like a man or a woman include typical behaviours.

I qualify to be queen the same way a man qualifies to be a woman. It’s an inherent knowing, a sense I was always meant to be a queen. So why are their feelings valid and not mine?

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:51

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:46

To qualify being a woman means you need to have the sort of body that developed to produce eggs. In what way does any man qualify for being a woman irrespective of his "consumerist" choices?

It wasn't only consumerist choices. As I mentioned special interests (like hobbies, activities), & life choices (like employment) are also included.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:51

A link to a site called "girlpowermarketing". Marketing eh, would they still buy these things at higher rates without marketing?

Boredoflunch1 · 21/01/2026 06:54

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:51

It wasn't only consumerist choices. As I mentioned special interests (like hobbies, activities), & life choices (like employment) are also included.

Choice of employment makes you a woman or man? Are we back in 1950?

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:55

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:51

A link to a site called "girlpowermarketing". Marketing eh, would they still buy these things at higher rates without marketing?

Ahhh so you believe consumerist choices are purely based on 'brain washing' the programable robots aka 'women'? They aren't capable of autonomous decisions like men hence the difference? Hmmmm?

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 06:55

Boredoflunch1 · 21/01/2026 06:54

Choice of employment makes you a woman or man? Are we back in 1950?

According to @Gretel346 yes

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 06:56

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:51

It wasn't only consumerist choices. As I mentioned special interests (like hobbies, activities), & life choices (like employment) are also included.

So if I like F1 am I a man?

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:56

Boredoflunch1 · 21/01/2026 06:54

Choice of employment makes you a woman or man? Are we back in 1950?

Way to tell us you haven't read or comprehended all the previous relevant comments without telling us.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:57

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:51

It wasn't only consumerist choices. As I mentioned special interests (like hobbies, activities), & life choices (like employment) are also included.

Your consumer choices don't change your sex. I'm in a job that was historically male dominated and still was at the time I first started, this doesn't mean I'm a man.

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:58

Namelessnelly · 21/01/2026 06:56

So if I like F1 am I a man?

No. I very much like F1 but have more in common with women's typical interests because of a balance of interests.

Prettyneededbread · 21/01/2026 06:59

From the link provided:

Women purchase over 50% of traditional male products, including automobiles, home improvement products, and consumer electronics.

So consumerist choices are blurred...

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:59

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:57

Your consumer choices don't change your sex. I'm in a job that was historically male dominated and still was at the time I first started, this doesn't mean I'm a man.

Noone is suggesting one common interest makes you the opposite sex.

Boredoflunch1 · 21/01/2026 06:59

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:56

Way to tell us you haven't read or comprehended all the previous relevant comments without telling us.

I have read and comprehended the previous comments, even with my woman brain.

You think that choice of employment has some bearing on your gender. That's utter bollocks and you know it.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 07:00

So, instead of the much hyped "genital inspections" to enter female only spaces transwomen could just bring their latest credit card statements along to show their consumerist choices as proof why they should be allowed in?

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 07:00

Boredoflunch1 · 21/01/2026 06:59

I have read and comprehended the previous comments, even with my woman brain.

You think that choice of employment has some bearing on your gender. That's utter bollocks and you know it.

On the contrary, you have not comprehended anything.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 07:01

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 06:59

Noone is suggesting one common interest makes you the opposite sex.

Nothing ever makes anyone the opposite sex. You either have a sperm producing body type or an egg producing one, everything else is personality.

boxuponbox · 21/01/2026 07:02

IwantToRetire · 20/01/2026 19:22

Whoever this person is, what bubble have they been living in.

Everyone knows that TRAs are the shock troops of the queer invasions that happened in Universities in 80s.

It has always come from the chattering classes and the graduates from the universities that closed their women's studies units and became Gender studies (note the word gender) filtering into position at places of work like newspapers, tv and politics and started putting their queer politics into practice.

eg editor of the Guardian saying "every choice I make is based on my queer politics".

FWR has had lots of threads about this and how it evolved.

Where or who has anyone said it was from the streets.

I think he uses the phrase ‘from the streets’ to illustrate how pro-trans fans seem to think trans is some bottom up movement of the most oppressed and marginalized people. Hence they can see a physically big male doctor bullying an older, physically small female nurse, and be sad with sympathy for the poor vulnerable doctor whilst angry with the mean, oppressor nurse.

Boredoflunch1 · 21/01/2026 07:03

"Women's typical interests". This is outdated sexist nonsense.

Unless you include fanny ping pong, clitoral piercing and giving birth. Woman are really interested in those things.

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 07:03

Prettyneededbread · 21/01/2026 06:59

From the link provided:

Women purchase over 50% of traditional male products, including automobiles, home improvement products, and consumer electronics.

So consumerist choices are blurred...

But who are they buying for is the question. I purchase the majority of products for the household but I don't necessarily use them all. What I have in common with most women is I'm CEO of buying for the home.

Gretel346 · 21/01/2026 07:05

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 07:01

Nothing ever makes anyone the opposite sex. You either have a sperm producing body type or an egg producing one, everything else is personality.

Excellent. Your'e almost there in that you get to decide what qualifies as a man or woman to you.