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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Imnobody4 · 04/12/2025 21:33

Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

x.com/JuliaHB1/status/1996576537894703427?t=VgmnlP9LETiwrihlgEkCqA&s=09

Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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murasaki · 07/12/2025 21:30

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:27

Because I was called that as a weapon to humiliate me and shut me up/ discredit my opinions. Like the poster who said "mate no one will care if your use the male loos". The intention is to humiliate.

No one needs to humiliate you, you're doing a cracking job by yourself.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 07/12/2025 21:31

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:28

Because I know perfectly well you don't believe you are trans, you are just on the wind up.

I believe I am trans.

Or rather, I understand that were I to believe in Genderism, I would define myself as trans in that framework.

My Trans identity is an Agender Person of Female Biology.

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:32

Seethlaw · 07/12/2025 21:30

And you're a transmedicalist. That would also upset a huge majority of the trans community. But at least I'm not pretending to speak for them.

and also seem to be quite self deprecating of yourself.

Ah yes, the good old "there must be something wrong with you" chesnut, coupled with the fake sympathy. You're really out to pull all the "arguing in bad faith" stereotypes, are you?

I am certainly not a transmedicalist.

Im sorry that I have angered you and you think I am arguing in bad faith. It is not the case.

I have no wish to argue with you. Wish you a good night.

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:33

FlirtsWithRhinos · 07/12/2025 21:31

I believe I am trans.

Or rather, I understand that were I to believe in Genderism, I would define myself as trans in that framework.

My Trans identity is an Agender Person of Female Biology.

You are not trans.

Seethlaw · 07/12/2025 21:33

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/12/2025 21:29

Me too! I've demonstrated my transness as a non-binary agender man!

One big trans family 🤗!!

FlirtsWithRhinos · 07/12/2025 21:33

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:32

I am certainly not a transmedicalist.

Im sorry that I have angered you and you think I am arguing in bad faith. It is not the case.

I have no wish to argue with you. Wish you a good night.

Edited

Are ypu a cismedicalist then?

SwirlyGates · 07/12/2025 21:34

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:14

Why does that make you so angry? It's simply naming the norm,
in order to enable recognition of the minority. It takes nothing away from you.

Edited

We've already got names. "Women" and "men".

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/12/2025 21:34

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:30

Of course I do. It's perfectly obvious from the conversation I have had with you.

In a similar way that it's almost always (more than 99.98% of the time at a fairly educated guess) perfectly obvious who is a man and who is a woman?

murasaki · 07/12/2025 21:34

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:33

You are not trans.

You are being very rude about Rhino's lived experience.

spannasaurus · 07/12/2025 21:34

I'm trans and so's my wife

FallenSloppyDead2 · 07/12/2025 21:35

I want a flag.

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:35

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/12/2025 21:34

In a similar way that it's almost always (more than 99.98% of the time at a fairly educated guess) perfectly obvious who is a man and who is a woman?

I wouldn't put it quite that high- but yes. Maybe 99.5%

murasaki · 07/12/2025 21:36

FallenSloppyDead2 · 07/12/2025 21:35

I want a flag.

I want a special zebra crossing.

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:36

spannasaurus · 07/12/2025 21:34

I'm trans and so's my wife

Ok that made me laugh.

Helleofabore · 07/12/2025 21:37

CorvusPurpureus · 07/12/2025 21:06

Punctuation 'tells' are always fascinating, I find.

Yep. It is why I wouldn’t bother name changing.

Helleofabore · 07/12/2025 21:40

Seethlaw · 07/12/2025 21:11

Sorry, Helle, I have no experience with genderfluid people. I can imagine what they mean from what I've read (ie. what it would mean to me to be genderfluid), but I've never discussed it with one of them.

Thanks Seethlaw.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 07/12/2025 21:41

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:33

You are not trans.

How DARE you!!

I am an Agender Person of Female Biology.

I had believed my female biology made me a woman, but now you have explained to me that having [adult human] female biology is not the definition of womanhood I see the error of my ways and repent of my old ways of thinking.

I now realise I am not a woman and I never was a woman.

I am agender.

This is how I truly undertstand myself. It explains why many of the social constraints and constructs of womanhood have always felt wrong to me.

I thought I was a Feminist responding to society's imposition of sexist mores on to my body, but now through Your Guidance puppy I understand that I was never a woman at all and I am reborn as the Agender Person of Female Biology I was always meant to be.

Hallelujah!

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/12/2025 21:42

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:35

I wouldn't put it quite that high- but yes. Maybe 99.5%

I'm going on the incidence of various DSDs, but bearing in mind that most of them very clearly apply only to male (e.g. Klinefelter) or female. I am assuming access to medical testing; without that, I think some people are much better at telling than others. I'm not the best at recognising who is male and who is female, though it's much easier if I see them walking. My understanding is that women tend to be better than men (I'd better clarify, better at distinguishing sex than men!).

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:43

FlirtsWithRhinos · 07/12/2025 21:41

How DARE you!!

I am an Agender Person of Female Biology.

I had believed my female biology made me a woman, but now you have explained to me that having [adult human] female biology is not the definition of womanhood I see the error of my ways and repent of my old ways of thinking.

I now realise I am not a woman and I never was a woman.

I am agender.

This is how I truly undertstand myself. It explains why many of the social constraints and constructs of womanhood have always felt wrong to me.

I thought I was a Feminist responding to society's imposition of sexist mores on to my body, but now through Your Guidance puppy I understand that I was never a woman at all and I am reborn as the Agender Person of Female Biology I was always meant to be.

Hallelujah!

🙄

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:46

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/12/2025 21:42

I'm going on the incidence of various DSDs, but bearing in mind that most of them very clearly apply only to male (e.g. Klinefelter) or female. I am assuming access to medical testing; without that, I think some people are much better at telling than others. I'm not the best at recognising who is male and who is female, though it's much easier if I see them walking. My understanding is that women tend to be better than men (I'd better clarify, better at distinguishing sex than men!).

Edited

Many people with DSDs one would easily identify as being either male or female. Meanwhile, for other people even without DSDs, it could be harder to tell.
But for the vast majority of people it's fairly easy to determine, yes, from a whole range of queues.

TWETMIRF · 07/12/2025 21:46

I don't know why you are invalidating people's trans identification. You have tried to explain to us ignorant witches that our understanding of trans is wrong. Maybe you have been successful and prompted a rethink which has resulted in a realisation that they are actually trans?

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 07/12/2025 21:50

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:46

Many people with DSDs one would easily identify as being either male or female. Meanwhile, for other people even without DSDs, it could be harder to tell.
But for the vast majority of people it's fairly easy to determine, yes, from a whole range of queues.

I'd be inclined to go on cues myself.

murasaki · 07/12/2025 21:50

TWETMIRF · 07/12/2025 21:46

I don't know why you are invalidating people's trans identification. You have tried to explain to us ignorant witches that our understanding of trans is wrong. Maybe you have been successful and prompted a rethink which has resulted in a realisation that they are actually trans?

Well exactly, I think Rhino, Rapidonset and I have all had an epiphany.

FallenSloppyDead2 · 07/12/2025 21:51

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:46

Many people with DSDs one would easily identify as being either male or female. Meanwhile, for other people even without DSDs, it could be harder to tell.
But for the vast majority of people it's fairly easy to determine, yes, from a whole range of queues.

What cues? How can you tell?

puppymaddness · 07/12/2025 21:52

TWETMIRF · 07/12/2025 21:46

I don't know why you are invalidating people's trans identification. You have tried to explain to us ignorant witches that our understanding of trans is wrong. Maybe you have been successful and prompted a rethink which has resulted in a realisation that they are actually trans?

Being trans isn't something you can think your way in or out of as we have discussed at length on this thread,

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