Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

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Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

But surely the reality of trans experience is that someone has made a decision about their lifestyle and presentation based on feelings, not science. I expect it does hurt to know that that is the reality of your life and that others know this about you , whatever they might say to your face. This does not preclude anyone from living their life as they wish to.

But expecting other people to lie about biological reality, about the fact that our world is made up of species of living organisms, mammals, insects, birds, fish, invertebrates and plants all of whom operate on a defined system of male and female identity that is ,by and large, defined at conception and unchanging , shows both an ignorance of the world and an unreasonable level of entitlement.

Absolutely! The optics on this will only benefit one side. Nice one, bring it on!!

If you think a piece of paper can change your sex, wherever you're living it's not reality.

There is a helpful (but not comprehensive) list here of things that TRAs have claimed are transphobic:
Wings Over Scotland | Everything is transphobic

Regardless of how you see the 'facts' of the matter, what makes this statement transphobic is that it evinces scorn for trans people.

Furthermore, it's not even a logical statement. It declares that the need to acquire administrative identity documents proves someone's identity is false, which is, of course, completely silly. Presumably you have a birth certificate and a passport? A marriage license perhaps? No one concludes the person isn’t actually born, or a citizen, or married, because they got the document to say so.

Far from a logical statement of fact, it is simply a rhetorical device designed to make trans people look ridiculous.

So, no, not everything is transphobic; but this statement certainly is.

dismisses the realities which, in the real world, translates to 'doesn't play along with lies and delusions'.

@puppymaddness You do realise that every time you accuse someone of 'transphobia' for a completely normal view, another person shrugs and says 'okidoki then'?

It really doesn't have the effect you think it does.

'Far from a logical statement of fact, it is simply a rhetorical device designed to make trans people look ridiculous.'

It isn't this that is making trans people look ridiculous, in all honesty.

'Lived reality' and 'literal genocide' are right up there with 'blue sky thinking' and 'thought fridge' in my wank speech dictionary.

But I can circle back around and touch base again later if you still can't quite understand why a piece of paper doesn't change a man into a woman.

And does Ofcom consult the staff Affinity Network when making decisions?

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/diversity-and-equality/national-coming-out-day?a=109577

Transitioning at work policy
Evidence shows, sadly, that transphobia is growing in the UK. But we don’t believe in judging people for how they identify. Our ‘transitioning at work’ policy has been supporting trans and gender non-conforming colleagues since 2018, helping those who transition to their affirmed gender while working here. It’s something we’re incredibly proud to have put in place.

The realities of trans experience is a contradiction.

Apologies if my language was too academic.

"Lived realities" is simply a short and simple way of referring to the actual day-to-day experiences of a person in their real life, rather than a projection of what/ how something is in theory from an outside perspective.

Someone’s identity which doesn’t reflect material reality, including having no biological markers, means that identity is a philosophical belief. There is no other commonality.

Making a true statement about someone’s philosophical belief using accurate language with meanings that have been established for centuries and understood by the majority of the population is not dismissing the realities of the trans experience.

It is making an accurate insight about that experience of an identity that is based on philosophical belief.

That it is considered transphobic because people don’t act as if they share the same belief that the person does is showing just how authoritarian and totalitarian the accuser is. Well done for making that clear.

If Ofcom find TalkTV is transphobic for calling a man a man, will they be invesigating the misogyny EVERYWHERE ELSE behind calling a man a woman?

Too academic. 🤣🤣

Please please can we have the laugh emoji back.

Transness is a lived fantasy, not a lived reality.

It is based on an illusion.

‘Apologies if my language was too academic.’

Best laugh I’ve had so far today 😂

No one in the UK has to act as if they believe someone else's philosophical belief when it does not reflect material reality. And as it is a democracy, any person can make a comment that might be perceived as negative while being true about someone else's philosophical belief when that belief does not reflect material reality.

"By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

This is an accurate assessment of the 'trans lived experience' or 'referring to the actual day-to-day experiences of a person in their real life' using the words that the majority of the English speaker will instantly understand using words with well established and commonly understood meanings.

That someone doesn't like it doesn't make the statement hateful.

What is chilling is the totalitarian and authoritarian action of trying to prevent such a statement being said in a democratic society.

Ofcom is a good example of a useless regulator, certainly when it comes to broadcasting. They will investigate and do very little.

After all, they are happy with GB News being allowed to pretend it is a news channel instead of a talkshow about news.

The whole point is that the statement 100% accurately reflects the "lived realities of trans people"

What the statement does not do is reflect the meaningless, potentially dishonest and deeply misogynistic feelings that men claim to feel. But feelings are not lived realities, and we can never know what those feelings are. All we can know is what misogynistic men who want to destroy women's rights and spaces claim to feel, and we have no reason to trust them given they are trying to destroy women's rights and spaces.

Yes, I'd love to see this!

I've disagreed a lot with JHB in the past but she's great on this. And strong and sharp with all the arguments to hand

Yawning loudly here...

Aww Mumsnet only comes in at number 48. I thought it would be a top hit.

I made the mistake of clicking on a picture of a man brushing his hair in the ladies toilet, with an erection poking out of his very tight skirt.

It couldn't demonstrate a bigger reality of many trans experiences. They're plastered across the Internet from one to the other.

Scorn couldn't be more appropriate.