Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

[TwoLoonsAndASprout]

Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

I have bread to knead. I need some resolution.

What is it with people, eh? My sister phoned during one of the explosive moments! It's almost as if they don't know what drama is unfolding in a court in Belfast😏

I'm out of the loop on this one. Could someone kindly give a quick summary of this case? There's a conflict of interest now? Sounds dramatic!

Replies to Nick's last tweet:

Oh man, those ellipsis…
Imagine if this was live streamed!
What a place to stop Nick
Is the note in your handwriting Nick ? 😀
oh this is too much!!! i need the sal volatile..... [smelling salts]

Don't worry, it will taste nicer with a longer prove. 🍞

I too have done this

mea culpa

There was Sarah Palin shade thrown earlier and Palin did famously say that 'you can put lipstick on a pig but it remains a pig'.

Not sure SD was that quick, more of a spur of the moment thing - although a very American saying.

I would complain if I was NC. That's conduct unbecoming. Beyond advocacy.

From NW

... emailed to my instructing solicitor.
NC for complete transparency it had been round the houses - Dr Elves and I saw it before my instructing solicitor did. It was given to you us 40 mins ago. It reads:

"NC [Naomi Cunningham] means TWAW means RCC has men women's spaces
D [Michele Devlin] yes
Prof Sarah [sic] Boyd to J "can we rise for a second I have a concern"
STAND
SIT 11.20
J list of issues, length of case... taxpayers money"

J and the point of this?
NC that some observers in this room, some of whom may be fair-minded and informed and we say that explains or could explain why you rose and the impression that was given - it is further detail in the story and a piece of information in the mind of the fair-minded observer
J - SD?
SD the fact that a panel member said I have a concern can we rise - you know what you discussed we are not entitled to know for now what you said so you can deal with it. but this journalist is an activist too. so not sure how fairminded that observer is. I say it doesn't take this application any further.

My mum called during me watching a football match last weekend. I said she could carry on if she was prepared to put up with random swearing or yelling at the telly.

She voted for a call back.

Fascinating although I'm a bit lost so I'm away to read up on this case.

That sounds like a line out of a heavy metal song...😁

From NW

[J and panel rises till not before 4pm]

[break]

A TransMission

IANAL but I think that NC made the point that if Boyd had alerted the ET to the role she held it would be reasonable if SM to make a submission asking for recusal from the off but she might not have done. Recusal is not the same as losing job and there is a process to present potential conflicts of interest which Boyd seems purposefully to have ignored.

Who is Deborah Boyd and what is Re3 Group Ltd?

Deborah BOYD personal appointments - Find and update company information - GOV.UK share.google/ZFaI9cYCRugHhavX6

I do think from observing a lot of meetings etc, that it is harder for people to see a potential conflict of interest when it concerns them rather than other people

Deborah Boyd's daughter has, I think, a partner who has posted at least one picture celebrating Pride.

Where are you digging now, you naughty Dinosaur?

That note sounds like contemporaneous notes from a journalist who heard what Prof Boyd said.

My speculation from the notes is that Boyd may have raised her conflict of interest at that point and asked if she needed to be recused. The panel rose to discuss it and may have said no on the grounds of cost of rehearing to the taxpayer.

That is not an excuse or reason not to recuse, though the case would probably have to be reheard entirely at that point.

If this.is true then the judge might be in really deep shit for not recusing Boyd.

I don't know about rudeness, but I'm sure SD was scundered already.

Every lawyer in Belfast has that one client who rocks up and says "see me, see this case, it'll be wee buns" and then it turns out very much not to be.

I'd enjoy listening to the arguments that Pride is an open minded, unbiased event that is inclusive of gender identity, particularly the freedom of lesbians to be homosexual.

From NW

Okay I think I've got the right Northern Ireland Women's Manifesto on Northern Ireland for the General Election of 2019. It is supported on the cover by Transgender NI and the Women's Resource and Development Agency.
https://x.com/nickwallis/status/1989354804028776510/photo/1

Part of the recusal case was that panel member Prof Boyd (PB) is a former director of Enterprising Women's Network (EWN) which is part of the Women's Regional Consortium (WRC). The WRC is part of the Women's Resource and Development Agency (WRDA) which is a sponsor of the...

@thewaythatyoudoit Nowhere that other people could not find easily.

If that's a very old photo, it's possible. I'm poor with faces, though, so not the best judge (and she's mostly looking down and hasn't smiled). No photos loading for me on the BelTel article, but 65 is approx the right age. Short dark hair with a purple rinse.