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"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 5

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ThreeWordHarpy · 31/10/2025 12:22

Thread 1, 7-Oct to 23-Oct; pre-hearing discussion, KD (day 1 of evidence) and BH (day 2).
Thread 2, 23-Oct to 28-Oct; BH (day 2), CH, JP, MG (day 3&4), TH, SS, ST, LL (day 4), JS, AT (day 5)
Thread 3, 28-Oct to 29-Oct, AT (day 5&6), TA (day 6&7)
Thread 4, 29-Oct to 31-Oct, TA, AM (day 7) JB (day 8)

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, Rose, who identifies as female. The hearing started on October 20th, with evidence starting on October 22nd and is scheduled to last 3 weeks. To view the hearing online requests for access had to be made by October 17th. The hearing is being live tweeted by Tribunal Tweets who have background to this case on their substack. An alternative to X is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

The Judge made clear at the start of the public hearing on Day 1 that only TT or press have permission to tweet. If online observers see/hear something in the court that isn’t reported by TT, we don’t mention it until the next time there’s a break. This is a very cautious approach to avoid any accusations of “live reporting” on MN. Commentary on the content of TT tweets is fine as soon as they’re posted on X.

Key people:
C/Ns - Claimants, the Darlington nurses
R/T/Trust - Respondent, County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust
J/EJ – Judge/Employment Judge Seamus Sweeney
NF - Niazi Fetto KC, barrister for claimants
SC - Simon Cheetham, KC, barrister for respondents
RH - Rose Henderson, trans identifying nurse
CG – Clare Gregory, ward manager
SW - Sue Williams, NHS Trust HR
KD – Karen Danson, first claimant to give evidence.
BH – Bethany Hutchison, claimant
AH – Alistair Hutchison, husband of Bethany
CH – Carly Hoy, claimant
JP – Jane Peveller, claimant
MG – Mary Anne (aka Annice) Grundy, claimant
TH – Tracy Hooper, claimant
SS – Siobhan Sinclair, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust
ST – Sharron Trevarrow, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust, former housekeeper and wellbeing officer
LL – Lisa Lockey, claimant
JP – Professor Jo Phoenix, expert witness
JS – Jane Shields, witness for the claimants
AT - Andrew Thacker, NHS trust Head of HR
TA – Tracy Atkinson, NHS trust HR.
AM – Andrew Moore, NHS Head of Workforce Experience
JB – Jillian Bailey, NHS Workforce Experience Manager

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AuthorisedCat · 31/10/2025 15:15

being very short and clipped with her answers

Boiledbeetle · 31/10/2025 15:16

AuthorisedCat · 31/10/2025 15:15

being very short and clipped with her answers

Yep.

<peers at A Cat over top of glasses>

NewInks · 31/10/2025 15:17

What this witness is demonstrating is just how hostile an environment there is at the hospital towards the claimants

ickky · 31/10/2025 15:17

So she did know

Mazzer1234 · 31/10/2025 15:18

Bang to rights.

IDareSay · 31/10/2025 15:18

TT

NF In the supplemental bundle go to p58. You see there.. [witness is in the wrong place]
NF An email from u to Miss Clommet? giving your account of this
TW Yes
NF In Summer 24, u knew KD had raised a Cx
No I didnt
NF U say to Miss Cobber? Is it just Rose u dont want

ILikeDungs · 31/10/2025 15:18

NewInks · 31/10/2025 15:17

What this witness is demonstrating is just how hostile an environment there is at the hospital towards the claimants

Exactly

AuthorisedCat · 31/10/2025 15:18

fuck

Mmmnotsure · 31/10/2025 15:18

😯

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 31/10/2025 15:18

That’s quite an accusation against Karen Danson.

NewInks · 31/10/2025 15:19

wow. I have no words

NotNatacha · 31/10/2025 15:19

ickky · 31/10/2025 15:09

Oh is the manager that wouldn't upset rose and ask him not to be in the theatre while a nurse had an operation?

And we have learned that there are 14 operating theatres. Is there just one for gynaecology procedures and Rose has to be in it, she can’t work anywhere else and nobody else can do that job in gynae theatres?

Unlikely.

If true, though, it would be wrong to make any deductions about why she chose this specialism.

unlikelysuspect · 31/10/2025 15:19

😮😮

ILikeDungs · 31/10/2025 15:19

What a mess

IDareSay · 31/10/2025 15:19

TT

NF [reads I cant believe what I was asked and was angry. KD mentions the court case
Yes
NF U were angry as u thought she was challenging about the F CR
YW That's not true
NF I have no further Qs
TW Can I just say. There's a lot of untruth in this statement by KD

Boiledbeetle · 31/10/2025 15:20

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 31/10/2025 15:18

That’s quite an accusation against Karen Danson.

She was determined to get it in there though wasn't she!

GoldThumb · 31/10/2025 15:20

Well ain’t she a charmer 🥴

ickky · 31/10/2025 15:20

Why would the request make her angry? Is she a true believer?

CriticalCondition · 31/10/2025 15:20

As well as protecting RH I think she was outraged that someone had the temerity to ask her to alter her rotas.

chilling19 · 31/10/2025 15:20

What an awful thing to say about KDs statement. Nasty.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 31/10/2025 15:20

Yeah.

Letthemeatgateau · 31/10/2025 15:20

chilling19 · 31/10/2025 15:11

Oh so this was the [insert expletive] who would not keep RH out of one of the claimant’s intimate operation?

Out of all all this sorry mess, this is the part that makes me angriest. Posted this before, but it's entirely usual for female staff to be cared for by a female team. For ANY surgery, let alone gynae, let alone when there's ongoing issues like this. A female member of staff shouldn't even have to raise it as a request

I'm so fucking livid. This was punishment.

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 31/10/2025 15:20

Compared with the claimant witnesses these respondents are so angry in their defensiveness.

IDareSay · 31/10/2025 15:21

TT

J We normally have a break now and we'll need to think about any Qs for you. You remain under oath and can't speak about the case or your evidence. We'll call for you in 10 minutes or later. SESSION ENDS

SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 31/10/2025 15:21

ickky · 31/10/2025 15:20

Why would the request make her angry? Is she a true believer?

Rose is her favourite nephew and anyone who suggests that he might have broken that window is a shocking meanie who ought to know better.

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