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"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 5

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ThreeWordHarpy · 31/10/2025 12:22

Thread 1, 7-Oct to 23-Oct; pre-hearing discussion, KD (day 1 of evidence) and BH (day 2).
Thread 2, 23-Oct to 28-Oct; BH (day 2), CH, JP, MG (day 3&4), TH, SS, ST, LL (day 4), JS, AT (day 5)
Thread 3, 28-Oct to 29-Oct, AT (day 5&6), TA (day 6&7)
Thread 4, 29-Oct to 31-Oct, TA, AM (day 7) JB (day 8)

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, Rose, who identifies as female. The hearing started on October 20th, with evidence starting on October 22nd and is scheduled to last 3 weeks. To view the hearing online requests for access had to be made by October 17th. The hearing is being live tweeted by Tribunal Tweets who have background to this case on their substack. An alternative to X is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

The Judge made clear at the start of the public hearing on Day 1 that only TT or press have permission to tweet. If online observers see/hear something in the court that isn’t reported by TT, we don’t mention it until the next time there’s a break. This is a very cautious approach to avoid any accusations of “live reporting” on MN. Commentary on the content of TT tweets is fine as soon as they’re posted on X.

Key people:
C/Ns - Claimants, the Darlington nurses
R/T/Trust - Respondent, County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust
J/EJ – Judge/Employment Judge Seamus Sweeney
NF - Niazi Fetto KC, barrister for claimants
SC - Simon Cheetham, KC, barrister for respondents
RH - Rose Henderson, trans identifying nurse
CG – Clare Gregory, ward manager
SW - Sue Williams, NHS Trust HR
KD – Karen Danson, first claimant to give evidence.
BH – Bethany Hutchison, claimant
AH – Alistair Hutchison, husband of Bethany
CH – Carly Hoy, claimant
JP – Jane Peveller, claimant
MG – Mary Anne (aka Annice) Grundy, claimant
TH – Tracy Hooper, claimant
SS – Siobhan Sinclair, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust
ST – Sharron Trevarrow, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust, former housekeeper and wellbeing officer
LL – Lisa Lockey, claimant
JP – Professor Jo Phoenix, expert witness
JS – Jane Shields, witness for the claimants
AT - Andrew Thacker, NHS trust Head of HR
TA – Tracy Atkinson, NHS trust HR.
AM – Andrew Moore, NHS Head of Workforce Experience
JB – Jillian Bailey, NHS Workforce Experience Manager

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EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 04/11/2025 10:35

I agree @IDareSay

CriticalCondition · 04/11/2025 10:36

He may not be first. They might have Sue Williams and then slide him in part way through the morning.

IDareSay · 04/11/2025 10:36

TT

We don’t know the reason for the long delay this morning. Still waiting for the session to begin.

NotNatacha · 04/11/2025 10:37

We should be allowed in, public access.

However, if we are not, it will be interesting if TT is. Perhaps they have been in an online room of their own all this time without knowing.

Szygy · 04/11/2025 10:38

ThatDaringMintCritic · 04/11/2025 10:29

Christian Concern have just posted that Rose is giving evidence this morning.

And I have to go out at 11:30 😱

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 04/11/2025 10:39

ThatDaringMintCritic · 04/11/2025 10:29

Christian Concern have just posted that Rose is giving evidence this morning.

😲😲😲😲

CriticalCondition · 04/11/2025 10:39

At least there isn't room for a Wall of Sad behind him.

anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 10:41

I'd be very happy with that man as my security guard. Has he been there all along or is this just because a "special" person may appear?

NotNatacha · 04/11/2025 10:42

I wonder if Ade, the security guard, has been there every day or if they thought things might be ‘special’ today.

Ade looks wonderful to me. Smiling, and I imagine extremely polite, until he needs to act.

NotNatacha · 04/11/2025 10:43

Snap, @anyolddinosaur

Two minds with the same thought.

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 04/11/2025 10:43

anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 10:41

I'd be very happy with that man as my security guard. Has he been there all along or is this just because a "special" person may appear?

I thought that too, we've not seen Ade before have we, happy to be corrected though!

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anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 10:46

Pretty sure there was security in Scotland but then there were threats made against Naomi and possibly the judge. Jane Russell claimed there were threats to her too - but that wasnt why the tribunal was forced to relocate.
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unlikelysuspect · 04/11/2025 10:46

Stil WFTCHTJ

ThatDaringMintCritic · 04/11/2025 10:48

Would we know if Rose had applied to be heard in private?

NotNatacha · 04/11/2025 10:48

We’ll be running out of ‘morning’ at this rate.

nauticant · 04/11/2025 10:48

Perfectly timed!

CriticalCondition · 04/11/2025 10:50

It's really shocking that nurses need to employ security to ensure their safety while they attend a court of law.

WTFAustraliaThisIsWhatHappensHereNow · 04/11/2025 10:50

I’ve had to skip ahead to get to current posts - so can anyone please confirm that he actually has ever taken female hormones? Or is it just hearsay, a building of the narrative that ‘it is assumed that as Rose is a TW, they must have been taking hormones’…

ThreeWordHarpy · 04/11/2025 10:51

I've been WFTCHTJ for so long it's timed out. Oh well, Rose will get a shiny new thread all to Rose's self.

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WomanInnaWoods · 04/11/2025 10:51

@ThatDaringMintCritic according to TT's substack RH applied for anonymity but it was denied in the interest of open justice

Edited to add I don't know if this also applies to him giving evidence at this point

CriticalCondition · 04/11/2025 10:51

I've been timed out and had to rejoin.

anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 10:52

I think the hormone talk is all speculation. it should be private medical information but Rose seems to have been happy to discuss his life. Another reason why "outing" wasnt an issue here.

Boiledbeetle · 04/11/2025 10:53

This is infuriating!

CriticalCondition · 04/11/2025 10:53

Maybe the chairs are being rearranged. You know, Titanic style. Before it went down.

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