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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Always been GC, but now afraid I'm becoming transphobic

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HouseOfGuineaPigs · 30/09/2025 23:07

I've always been gender critical and 100% in support of safe spaces for natal women only. I'm completely comfortable with being gender critical. But I'm concerned I've crossed a line into becoming a full on bigot, which is something I don't want to be. Due to my own background of mental health and trauma issues I follow pages on this issue on Facebook. I just saw one with a graphic post saying Using Preferred Pronouns Is Suicide Prevention and it made me want to scream and throw things.

I've been suicidal, I've attempted. I've battled see harm and self destructive behaviours since childhood. I should be sympathetic about the struggles people are having . But I feel manipulated seeing posts like that one. I use preferred names when I'm addressing trans persons. I am kind to them, I don't mention their issues. I treat them the same as anyone else. I will call a bloke Sue even if his real name is Bob, it feels odd, but I will do it to be respectful . But calling a he a she is a step too far. I would either use their name or use they.

Why do I feel so strongly that I'm being manipulated ? None of the trans people I know have abused me in any way. They haven't infringed on my boundaries . I have 2 trans friends, another who is non binary and 2 acquaintances. They have all been decent .

I just feel resentful that I'm being made to feel responsible for someone not taking their life because I don't affirm their identity ?

I'm horrible aren't I ? Please sort my head out !

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Namelessnelly · 03/10/2025 19:44

ThisPeppyGreenCritic · 03/10/2025 09:32

Thank you. It's puerile comments like this that rather prove my point about most - but, significantly, not all - MNetters.

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But it’s true. You do seem to be suffering from some cognitive dissonance

ThisPeppyGreenCritic · 04/10/2025 05:38

Namelessnelly · 03/10/2025 19:44

But it’s true. You do seem to be suffering from some cognitive dissonance

I appreciate your struggle with some of the thought processes required when reading and understanding my post, but giving up in frustration and making wild accusations of mental states you neither properly understand or, by extension, use properly in conversation just serve to embarrass you further.

I would gently recommend you try to understand what I've written. I appreciate will take a lot of mental labour, but I really do believe you can do it. Once you have, I will be very happy to answer any legitimate questions you might have.

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 05:44

ThisPeppyGreenCritic · 04/10/2025 05:38

I appreciate your struggle with some of the thought processes required when reading and understanding my post, but giving up in frustration and making wild accusations of mental states you neither properly understand or, by extension, use properly in conversation just serve to embarrass you further.

I would gently recommend you try to understand what I've written. I appreciate will take a lot of mental labour, but I really do believe you can do it. Once you have, I will be very happy to answer any legitimate questions you might have.

Oooh… edgy! I understood your post perfectly. That’s why I know you’re wrong. You just keep practising your sarcasm amd “cutting” remarks. You’ll get there one day. I believe in you.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 05:46

ThisPeppyGreenCritic · 04/10/2025 05:38

I appreciate your struggle with some of the thought processes required when reading and understanding my post, but giving up in frustration and making wild accusations of mental states you neither properly understand or, by extension, use properly in conversation just serve to embarrass you further.

I would gently recommend you try to understand what I've written. I appreciate will take a lot of mental labour, but I really do believe you can do it. Once you have, I will be very happy to answer any legitimate questions you might have.

You have been asked legitimate questions and replied with insults. I think anyone answering your invitation can assume your 'happy to answer any legitimate questions' understands that it is just opening themselves up to further insults from you.

ThisPeppyGreenCritic · 04/10/2025 05:51

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Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 05:51

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 05:46

You have been asked legitimate questions and replied with insults. I think anyone answering your invitation can assume your 'happy to answer any legitimate questions' understands that it is just opening themselves up to further insults from you.

Oh was I supposed to feel insulted? I just thought the PP was doing a weird “practising being edgy” riff.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 06:36

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 05:51

Oh was I supposed to feel insulted? I just thought the PP was doing a weird “practising being edgy” riff.

How the fuck knows what the aim is? Well, I have my suspicions. However, I think it is just the usual exercise of fitting as many abusive terms such as the above, insults and derogatory remarks in as possible. Any interaction will bring those flooding forth. It is just par for the course.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:26

Since I am, according to another thread on here, the Supreme Arbiter, I demand you all address me as such. Failing that, Your Majesty will do.

If some person I don’t know on the internet thinks I’m a transphobe because I expect men to obey the law, I couldn’t give a fuck.

You’re welcome, peasants.

Igneococcus · 04/10/2025 07:38

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We work in shifts, all six of us.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:39

Hey, YoMaj, who was it that voted you Supreme Arbiter? Or was it a case of 'some strange woman lying in a pond distributing swords' type leadership appointment?

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:40

I can’t sleep. I get a lot of nightmares. So I’m often on here at weird hours.

Funny how forums work and are available 24/7. Who’da thunk it.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:41

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:39

Hey, YoMaj, who was it that voted you Supreme Arbiter? Or was it a case of 'some strange woman lying in a pond distributing swords' type leadership appointment?

Look, peasant. Don’t dare question my insight into my inclinations, ‘Kay?

Off with your head.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:45

Igneococcus · 04/10/2025 07:38

We work in shifts, all six of us.

'And, good heavens, the rabid transphobes are up early and ready to attack anyone who they perceive as being against the cult. I arise at a sensible time but it must be, what, about 5am in the UK?'

It is remarkable, isn't it Igneococcus just how far some people will go to express the extremity of their feelings towards people who apparently (because we are yet to see what it is that they are talking about) disagree with them? Even the time people are awake is to be belittled and a source of derision.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:46

I have not worked out yet though who is my sock puppet master. Which of the six of you are controlling me? Come on.... own up!

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:47

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:46

I have not worked out yet though who is my sock puppet master. Which of the six of you are controlling me? Come on.... own up!

I’m in charge here.

Pfft.

🤣🤣🤣

(sorry. Shit night of sleep and I’m slightly sleep deprived)

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:49

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:41

Look, peasant. Don’t dare question my insight into my inclinations, ‘Kay?

Off with your head.

Right, but Yomaj, a watery woman handing you a sword should be no basis for a system of government.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:50

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:47

I’m in charge here.

Pfft.

🤣🤣🤣

(sorry. Shit night of sleep and I’m slightly sleep deprived)

Flowers
SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 07:51

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:49

Right, but Yomaj, a watery woman handing you a sword should be no basis for a system of government.

Sayz you. 😛

Igneococcus · 04/10/2025 08:00

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 07:45

'And, good heavens, the rabid transphobes are up early and ready to attack anyone who they perceive as being against the cult. I arise at a sensible time but it must be, what, about 5am in the UK?'

It is remarkable, isn't it Igneococcus just how far some people will go to express the extremity of their feelings towards people who apparently (because we are yet to see what it is that they are talking about) disagree with them? Even the time people are awake is to be belittled and a source of derision.

5 am is perfectly sensible time for me, I'm a notorious lark.
I'm just amused how Peppy doesn't seem to understand how the internet works.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2025 08:02

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 05:44

Oooh… edgy! I understood your post perfectly. That’s why I know you’re wrong. You just keep practising your sarcasm amd “cutting” remarks. You’ll get there one day. I believe in you.

It’s like a corny James Bond villain as imagined by Chat GPT.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 08:07

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2025 08:02

It’s like a corny James Bond villain as imagined by Chat GPT.

I just don’t give a fuck anymore.

There’s no answers to my perfectly reasonable questions, ever from some posters.

And all I want is men to obey the law.

why is that so difficult and such an affront to them that they’re expected to obey the law? I don’t understand it, genuinely.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2025 08:10

Exactly, the thing is that I don’t care about being insulted by zealots with absurd worldviews who can’t argue their case in good faith. It’s like being called unreasonable by a Jehovah’s Witness. It’s quite funny.

Igneococcus · 04/10/2025 08:13

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2025 08:02

It’s like a corny James Bond villain as imagined by Chat GPT.

One of the female voices in Duolingo French sounds like someone talking with a plum in her mouth and everything she says sounds disapproving even the most positive statements. That's the voice I read Peppy's posts in.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 08:15

Igneococcus · 04/10/2025 08:00

5 am is perfectly sensible time for me, I'm a notorious lark.
I'm just amused how Peppy doesn't seem to understand how the internet works.

Well, there IS a group known for being active long into the night and sleeping during the day. I am not talking about vampires, but this group are rumoured to reside in dark or poorly lit spaces.

moggly · 04/10/2025 08:17

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The point of the prison stats analysis is to show that the men-who-call-themselves-women prison population are not a subset of imprisoned women in terms of their offending patterns, but - as one would expect - are like other imprisoned men.

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