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Muffinmam · 19/09/2025 13:01

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/09/2025 23:36

Huh?Confused

DNA is proof.
Photographs are not.

Edited

Except you can doctor a DNA report if you have the financial means to do so.

You can’t go back and create evidence that Brigette was born female.

I actually don’t care. I saw a video about this so long ago. I am yet to see any evidence that she’s not a man. Not one photo of her posing in a hospital bed after having given birth has been released.

Brigitte is a sexual predator. She is also an abuser who was caught on camera assaulting her husband on a plane.

Signalbox · 19/09/2025 13:02

hihelenhi · 19/09/2025 12:10

The vast majority of people can actually do this, as per all the research over the years. As I say, it's a cognitive ability most of us learn as babies, so I'm sorry that this is something you find difficult, as it's quite unusual to be unable to.

People can't literally change sex, and yes, in the VAST majority of cases, most people around them will be able to tell their actual sex. Especially with males who have taken steps to "transition" (although they can't literally do this) to what they imagine female is. With female to male, it's a little harder but is still largely obvious in real life.

As I say, it's a cognitive ability most of us learn as babies, so I'm sorry that this is something you find difficult, as it's quite unusual to be unable to.

Don’t be patronising. I didn’t say I have difficulty distinguishing men from women in the majority of cases. I’m just saying I’m not confident I can always tell ESPECIALLY in cases where people have gone to great lengths to change their appearance. I have also been misgendered on a number of occasions so it is clear to me that people cannot ALWAYS tell. Also I have seen enough threads on here and elsewhere online where other people get it wrong to know that I am not that unusual.

puffyisgood · 19/09/2025 13:05

I very much doubt there's any truth in these allegations, or that many people take them very seriously.

If they're prepared to throw money at this then I could easily imagine that DNA testing could be carried out with an independent observer, or even an observer paid to further the interests of Ms Owens, involved at all stages of the process in a way that'd make the results more or less irrefutable.

Chaosclassic · 19/09/2025 13:09

eatfigs · 19/09/2025 12:25

Where's the brother?

In court winning defamation cases over this nonsense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0l0z1p628o

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Jean micheal trogenux appeared in court?!

Well yes that’s that box ticked then. And proves she’s not a man then (that is the brother in question).

Thankyou.

Still though where is her life?! This isn’t only wild conspiracy theorists trying to find her early life. Normal journalists and bibliographers also commented it was blank.

DoinFineIThink · 19/09/2025 13:10

WallaceinAnderland · 18/09/2025 14:58

So we all need to get what? Blood tests? Carry around proof that we are all women?

We have show proof all the time for various reasons. We have to provide proof of our age, address, right to work, qualifications, driving licences, all sorts of things and have done for years.

If it keeps males out of female single sex spaces, services, sports, sponsorships, grants, awards, prisons, shelters, hospital wards etc. then I don't see the problem.

Jeez. You might not have a problem carrying round a card to "prove you're a woman" but ...no.
You can't see a problem with that?!
How do they get that proof? Examined? By who? Every woman has to go to the doctor for it, or what? As if they don't have enough to do, aren't stretched enough.
Also what happened to "we can always tell?!"
Shows what a load of horse shit that statement actually is.
Or is it just "collateral damage" like I've seen said on here before?!

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/09/2025 13:11

Muffinmam · 19/09/2025 13:01

Except you can doctor a DNA report if you have the financial means to do so.

You can’t go back and create evidence that Brigette was born female.

I actually don’t care. I saw a video about this so long ago. I am yet to see any evidence that she’s not a man. Not one photo of her posing in a hospital bed after having given birth has been released.

Brigitte is a sexual predator. She is also an abuser who was caught on camera assaulting her husband on a plane.

You are aware how old her children are? They were born before the advent of digital photography ( just like my children); and why would the family have any reason to show or share family snaps with the public? Her children were born before she became a public figure.

DoinFineIThink · 19/09/2025 13:13

eatfigs · 18/09/2025 23:21

This is daft. She's given birth hasn't she? There's your ultimate proof right there.

What about women who can't have kids, or don't want them? Would it be as easy for them? I've given birth more than once, why should my proof be more than someone else's

TheignT · 19/09/2025 13:14

Muffinmam · 19/09/2025 13:01

Except you can doctor a DNA report if you have the financial means to do so.

You can’t go back and create evidence that Brigette was born female.

I actually don’t care. I saw a video about this so long ago. I am yet to see any evidence that she’s not a man. Not one photo of her posing in a hospital bed after having given birth has been released.

Brigitte is a sexual predator. She is also an abuser who was caught on camera assaulting her husband on a plane.

Omg I must be a man! Four babies and not one photo of me in hospital with a baby.

I assume BM is a similar age to me and we didn't take photos all the time back when my children were born. I don't think any of us realised it meant we were men particularly with leaking breasts and sore stitches.

I have no idea if she is a man although it seems unlikely but a photograph in the maternity ward doesn't seem terribly relevant.

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/09/2025 13:15

People are muddling up and confusing all sorts of information and issues that are floating around in the social media sphere.

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:24

TheignT · 19/09/2025 13:14

Omg I must be a man! Four babies and not one photo of me in hospital with a baby.

I assume BM is a similar age to me and we didn't take photos all the time back when my children were born. I don't think any of us realised it meant we were men particularly with leaking breasts and sore stitches.

I have no idea if she is a man although it seems unlikely but a photograph in the maternity ward doesn't seem terribly relevant.

Aristocracy did. When you're the only one in the family who didn't have a litany of various photos taken at the most important milestones as every other sibling of yours clearly did that is one question that would at least be worth asking as it would be rather odd as to why not?

TheignT · 19/09/2025 13:27

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:24

Aristocracy did. When you're the only one in the family who didn't have a litany of various photos taken at the most important milestones as every other sibling of yours clearly did that is one question that would at least be worth asking as it would be rather odd as to why not?

Unfortunately I'm not aristocracy and BM isn't either so not sure what that has to do with anything.

DoinFineIThink · 19/09/2025 13:30

Not one photo of her posing in a hospital bed after having given birth has been released

Oh well, that's it then.
Must be a man. 🙄🤣(sarcasm)
Not sure if there's one of me either.

DoinFineIThink · 19/09/2025 13:33

TheignT · 19/09/2025 11:11

Speak for yourself. I've given birth to four children, well one was a CS, I've got the CS scars, the episiotomy scars. Anyone wants me to prove I'm a woman can fuck off.

Hear hear!
Same

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:38

TheignT · 19/09/2025 13:27

Unfortunately I'm not aristocracy and BM isn't either so not sure what that has to do with anything.

He came from money all his siblings had all the milestones of their life photographed yet nothing whatsoever of it's photos , fine it happens, but why, evidence is overwhelming its male. Look that's fine each to their own, it's not a criticism, you just look silly when the evidence is clearly there and your still claiming it's not and it's a Female

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/09/2025 13:38

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:24

Aristocracy did. When you're the only one in the family who didn't have a litany of various photos taken at the most important milestones as every other sibling of yours clearly did that is one question that would at least be worth asking as it would be rather odd as to why not?

The batshittery on display on this thread is <chef’s kiss>

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/09/2025 13:39

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:38

He came from money all his siblings had all the milestones of their life photographed yet nothing whatsoever of it's photos , fine it happens, but why, evidence is overwhelming its male. Look that's fine each to their own, it's not a criticism, you just look silly when the evidence is clearly there and your still claiming it's not and it's a Female

Truly, you are spoiling us

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:39

You're wafting again, who knows why as your not disputing any evidence are you?

AgentPidge · 19/09/2025 13:40

Bideo · 18/09/2025 16:46

A relationship with his teacher, from when he was 14 isn't bizarre?

It might not have been anything more than a normal 'favourite teacher's relationship until he was older. I thought he was 17 when they got together?

I have an ex who had a sexual relationship with his (female) drama teacher when he was 16.

Signalbox · 19/09/2025 13:44

AgentPidge · 19/09/2025 13:40

It might not have been anything more than a normal 'favourite teacher's relationship until he was older. I thought he was 17 when they got together?

I have an ex who had a sexual relationship with his (female) drama teacher when he was 16.

It’s weird and creepy though isn’t it? Everyone immediately recognises it’s weird and creepy when it’s 37 year old male teacher with a 16 year old girl.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/09/2025 13:45

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:39

You're wafting again, who knows why as your not disputing any evidence are you?

‘Evidence’

🤣

ScrollingLeaves · 19/09/2025 13:48

There would be hospital records for all her pregnancies surely.

Chairity · 19/09/2025 13:48

Chaosclassic · 19/09/2025 12:21

If she is a woman.
Where’s the brother?
Wheres his life?
Where’s pictures of bridgette at school?.
Why does no one from her school know her..
Who’s the uncle?
Where her pre-macron school teacher life?!

Just off the top of my head. It was months ago I looked at this and parked it under ‘mystery likely to develop’ 🫠

And here we have a potential development.

Brigitte's brother is happily making macarons (not to be confused with macrons) in Amiens.

tripleginandtonic · 19/09/2025 13:49

DoinFineIThink · 19/09/2025 13:30

Not one photo of her posing in a hospital bed after having given birth has been released

Oh well, that's it then.
Must be a man. 🙄🤣(sarcasm)
Not sure if there's one of me either.

Or me. Plus some people when they're young don't like having theor photo taken.

TheignT · 19/09/2025 13:53

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:38

He came from money all his siblings had all the milestones of their life photographed yet nothing whatsoever of it's photos , fine it happens, but why, evidence is overwhelming its male. Look that's fine each to their own, it's not a criticism, you just look silly when the evidence is clearly there and your still claiming it's not and it's a Female

So his family took photos, obviously years later for photos of him, so her family not doing it proves what?

Just to clarify as you obviously missed it but I don't know if she is a man or a woman but lack of photos proves nothing. You'd be hard pressed to find photos of me as a baby, child or young adult

miraxxx · 19/09/2025 13:55

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 13:39

You're wafting again, who knows why as your not disputing any evidence are you?

You actually have not presented one single piece of evidence that BM is male. Let us say that there is a suspicious lack of photographic evidence of BM's early life and accept that there is some sort of cover up - that in itself could be due to reasons other than she is a male. Maybe she is adopted? Maybe she is an alien? Maybe she is a werewolf who couldnt shift into human mode until she married dear Emmanuel?