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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #51

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nauticant · 01/09/2025 13:38

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence was 29 July 2025. It resumed again over 1 to 2 September for closing submissions.

The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton gave evidence from Thursday 6 February to Wednesday 12 February 2025. Sandie Peggie returned to give more evidence on 29 July 2025.

Access to view the second part of the hearing remotely was obtainable by sending an email request to [email protected] by 5pm on Wednesday 9 July. Detailed instructions were provided here:
drive.google.com/file/d/16-9POEZ7yHWUr6EmbfquJZO18Gv78bSm/view

The hearing is being live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.ph/WSSjg.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Links to previous threads #1 to #50 can be found in this thread: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 50: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5387893-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-50 7 August 2025 to 1 September 2025

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BettyBooper · 01/09/2025 15:53

#TheoUpton trending on X

sad times

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #51
MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:53

Oh dear, what have I unleashed!

Boiledbeetle · 01/09/2025 15:54

BettyBooper · 01/09/2025 15:53

#TheoUpton trending on X

sad times

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😂😂😂😂😂

Charabanc · 01/09/2025 15:54

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:53

Oh dear, what have I unleashed!

i have the power

CriticalCondition · 01/09/2025 15:54

ooh

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:54

From TT

Nothing in people's evidence re a conversation with Lottie Miles. KS said she couldn't remember. But a conversation wouldn't have been about the subject of the I/x in any event.

As to suggesting that others should have been sent confidentiality reminder as well - that wasnt' put to Lottie Miles. However there was suggestion that C had leaked details to press. No one else had done so, so no reminders to them. Even so, they did get reminders {mentions correspondence]

Boiledbeetle · 01/09/2025 15:55

I'm fairly sure the judge is asleep

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:55

Wait till you work out

smaller

bigly font

And I’m not telling.

nauticant · 01/09/2025 15:55

Great. 26 pages of BIG FONT and then I'm starting a new thread.

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MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:56

From TT

Other detriments - eg return to work in different location and day shift. Maggie Currer Jan email - MC wrongly said C referred to NMC. C had not. MC honest that couldn't explain why she said to. C given no evidence that this has damaged her reputation. No on replied to email.

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:57

From TT

Guarantee that Du would not enter F CR. C acknowledges that issue is escalated to the estates manager. C appears to applaud this. But position the Du had permission to be in F CR remains. Complaint c not interviewing Rihanna. Cos of annual leave and difficulty in getting hold

NotAtMyAge · 01/09/2025 15:58

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:53

Oh dear, what have I unleashed!

Not for me you haven't, Myrtle. 😥I've tried and tried and nothing happens. Are the rest of you on mobile devices? I'm on my laptop using Chrome. 😢

nauticant · 01/09/2025 15:58

If JR was doing this in an Hercule Poirot type scenario, by now the assembled crew would have said "you know what, I don't care who murdered the millionaire with the complicated life, I just want to get out of here".

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Boiledbeetle · 01/09/2025 15:58

ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ƃuıddoʇs ᴚſ

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:58

From TT

of Rihanna's union. Ms Hamilton was only involved in two things in March-November, a discussion with AG, an email to MSF, and another discussion with AG referred to in email. Assume that was one of the days MSF was not off during the time.

Boiledbeetle · 01/09/2025 15:58

Back in tomorrow at 10

MarieDeGournay · 01/09/2025 15:58

nauticant · 01/09/2025 15:55

Great. 26 pages of BIG FONT and then I'm starting a new thread.

I know. It's very immature. Bigly letters are not big and they are not clever.... well OK they are big and yes OK they are clever but apart from that...😁

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 15:59

NotAtMyAge · 01/09/2025 15:58

Not for me you haven't, Myrtle. 😥I've tried and tried and nothing happens. Are the rest of you on mobile devices? I'm on my laptop using Chrome. 😢

On an iPad.

You need to put the words on a separate line beginning with the hash then space.

nauticant · 01/09/2025 15:59

Intermediate sized font is not big but is clever.

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NebulousSupportPostcard · 01/09/2025 15:59

Court dismissed until tomorrow.

Now I will go and finish off my irritation by looking at BoswellToday's grift summary on twitter to see how superficial and how wrong his AI got it this time.

NotAtMyAge · 01/09/2025 15:59

nauticant · 01/09/2025 15:55

Great. 26 pages of BIG FONT and then I'm starting a new thread.

All my fault, Nauti, and I still can't manage to to do it myself. 😬

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 01/09/2025 15:59

Ok but can we make the writing smaller?

Beowulfa · 01/09/2025 16:00

I'm guessing there's a lot of tedious minute detail about procedures and who said what when in ETs, but they're not usually this blah blah blah, surely? An experienced judge will be able to smell BS?

murasaki · 01/09/2025 16:00

nauticant · 01/09/2025 15:55

Great. 26 pages of BIG FONT and then I'm starting a new thread.

Sorry, Nauticant. It was more exciting than JR.

MyrtleLion · 01/09/2025 16:00

From TT

mentions another piece of correspondence that C says was never sent]

JR I shall address tomorrow re inferences, international jurisprudence and concluding remarks.

J Thank you. Resume tomorrow at 10.

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