NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #51

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence was 29 July 2025. It resumed again over 1 to 2 September for closing submissions.

The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton gave evidence from Thursday 6 February to Wednesday 12 February 2025. Sandie Peggie returned to give more evidence on 29 July 2025.

Access to view the second part of the hearing remotely was obtainable by sending an email request to [email protected] by 5pm on Wednesday 9 July. Detailed instructions were provided here:
drive.google.com/file/d/16-9POEZ7yHWUr6EmbfquJZO18Gv78bSm/view

The hearing is being live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.ph/WSSjg.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Links to previous threads #1 to #50 can be found in this thread: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 50: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5387893-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-50 7 August 2025 to 1 September 2025

From TT

When C realised hasn't got away with CR incident she complains about everything. C conduct was worthy of treatment under board policy -this crossed the line and was unacceptable, and inappropriate. KS email of Dec. C says it was unnecessary to name claimant, but senior people

I'm losing the will to live.

I'm so bored

Only 23 more minutes.

So am I 🥱

From TT

would have to know. KS is taking against C behaviour not her beliefs - it doesn't mention her beliefs. Mr Doyle and Ms Currer agreed - MC gave evidence as C line manager. C says decision was animated only by DU account. Not correct. Louise Curren said looked at NNC

Judge? Is that you?

JR seems to forget that SP was found not guilty at disciplinary.

Desperately trying to catch up! Thanks to all.

Stop showing off with your large fonts. 😀

From TT

Code and decided it came under it. Suspension - C criticised this as she said rostering problem was surmountable. But also says KS wanted to keep DU and Sp apart. C said knew better than KS what nursing rotas were.

Limited staffing/support over Christmas.

Try contemporaneous complicated knitting. It's working for me, even if I keep having to pull out the stitches.

Well she has to try..🙄

You know how people are excused jury duty for 10 years or so after a particularly awful case, do we think Big Sond will get a pass on the next few?

From TT

Ms Davidson didn't suspend C. C incorrectly characterises HR as saying they were little more than tittle tattle. ED evidence was that it was also because of patient safety issues. Didn't downgrade those issues. HR took a different view, but to the extent that clinicians

If he rules in SP’s favour, we want him on all these tribunals about women’s rights being trampled on.

From TT

[unclear] C was not unfairly targeted. Decisions are being made by people on the ground and not in an office. Evidence of KS was that she told ED directly. No evidence in chief from Louise Curren on this. But ref to conversation on 3rd Jan that patient safety was discussed

I'm not observing but JR's parts of summary sound a bit like a defense that Sir Norman Fry of the Fast Show would make

Well there is that. Hopefully it won't sway his decision, he's better than that. More gin for Big Sond.

Yeah but he might have to listen to JR again

I would love to see a gogglebox style reaction video of everyone watching JR's submissions.

I suspect it would look like the aftermath of a large Christmas dinner.

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From TT

so ED knew about it. Wasn't put to ED that she was making up the patient safety issue. Decision to extend suspension- C says nothing had changed. But circumstances had changed. In January ED was making decision after Xmas Eve and time was short. Later the decision was

What?? Louise C looked up a few rules. She STILL only heard Dr U, and NOT Ms Peggie. What sort of word trickery is this barrister attempting? The only account they got was from Upton.

I'm confused, not watching just reading, but is JR even making a point here or just speaking in utter confabulations?