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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)

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WimbledonWhites · 04/08/2025 22:16

How many “cis” male members of staff do you suppose would approach teenage girls in the lingerie department?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/04/ms-apologises-over-trans-employee-in-bra-department/

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 04/08/2025 22:23

How completely and utterly inappropriate.

betterBeElwinNextIGuess · 04/08/2025 22:23

Eeeww. Apologises, but doesn't promise this man won't approach any more teenage girls.

Branleuse · 04/08/2025 22:29

Weird and fetishistic for a transwoman to be working in a lingerie department anyway, let alone approaching girls to help them.
Im getting yanis vibes

Delphinium20 · 04/08/2025 22:30

This happened to me and my daughter when she was 13. A dude in makeup and miniskirt who was 'helping' bring her clothes and bras to a changing area. I glared at the dude, held fast the changing room curtain (which was gaping on each side) and, surprise, surprise, his woman manager swapped him out w/ herself to help us.

JulesJules · 04/08/2025 22:30

Inadequate response from M&S. Why was this person allowed to roam around the women's clothing department in the first place?

GCAcademic · 04/08/2025 22:31

I wonder which store this was? Someone on here has definitely mentioned a trans-identifying male employee working in an M&S lingerie fitting room, I think it was in one of the central London stores? I wonder if there is more than one male employee working in their lingerie fitting rooms?

Wishitsnows · 04/08/2025 22:32

In plain sight! Fucking unbelievable.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/08/2025 22:32

I won’t be going to a store that lets men perv on girls.

Nowdontmakeamess · 04/08/2025 22:32

Bath store

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/08/2025 22:33

Normally you're looking for staff on the M & S shop floor, they're certainly not approaching you. But as we know, M & S has form for wedging men into the lingerie department - including their changing rooms. Back in 2018 they had a man claiming to be a woman fitting bras. Buried in the linked thread is the same Stonewall nonsense about M & S creating "a place where everyone – customers and colleagues – feels included, and can be themselves,"

A predator's dream

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3225608-Marks-Spencer-protest

Motnight · 04/08/2025 22:34

Wishitsnows · 04/08/2025 22:32

In plain sight! Fucking unbelievable.

It always is in plain sight now , 😔

HermioneWeasley · 04/08/2025 22:34

It’s not an accident he targeted a vulnerable teenager to talk about underwear with. Wildly inappropriate. M&S need to move him to food or furniture or something where he can’t involve non consenting women and girls in his role play.

WouldYouEatThemWithAFox · 04/08/2025 22:34

Either there is more than one trans employee in M&S bra measuring department or he’s been there for years and years because I’ve seen numerous threads on here about him.

WouldYouEatThemWithAFox · 04/08/2025 22:35

Photos of the article.

M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)
M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)
M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)
M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)
DurinsBane · 04/08/2025 22:36

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/08/2025 22:32

I won’t be going to a store that lets men perv on girls.

It may not be appropriate, but it doesn’t mean anyone was perving

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 04/08/2025 22:39

DurinsBane · 04/08/2025 22:36

It may not be appropriate, but it doesn’t mean anyone was perving

Don't be so naive!

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/08/2025 22:42

DurinsBane · 04/08/2025 22:36

It may not be appropriate, but it doesn’t mean anyone was perving

I hear hooves, I think horses, not zebras.

Toseland · 04/08/2025 22:59

Don't forget all those customer reviews in the lingerie section of the website, left by blokes enjoying wearing women's underwear far too much and M&S left them for us all to read.

WouldYouEatThemWithAFox · 04/08/2025 23:02

DurinsBane · 04/08/2025 22:36

It may not be appropriate, but it doesn’t mean anyone was perving

I don’t think there is any ‘may’ about it.

NameChangedOfc · 04/08/2025 23:04

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/08/2025 22:33

Normally you're looking for staff on the M & S shop floor, they're certainly not approaching you. But as we know, M & S has form for wedging men into the lingerie department - including their changing rooms. Back in 2018 they had a man claiming to be a woman fitting bras. Buried in the linked thread is the same Stonewall nonsense about M & S creating "a place where everyone – customers and colleagues – feels included, and can be themselves,"

A predator's dream

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3225608-Marks-Spencer-protest

A predator's dream indeed.
What a disgrace.

NeverOneBiscuit · 04/08/2025 23:15

Amongst other things, these stories hammer home that no decent man would imagine a teenage girl wanted help from him in buying a bra. It’s role playing & validation seeking, at the expense of females.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/08/2025 23:21

Fully agree @NeverOneBiscuit

Appalonia · 04/08/2025 23:23

Why did M&S employ this person to work in the women's clothing department in the first place? It's so inappropriate and asking for trouble. Good on that mum for complaining, but women shouldn't be put in this position in the first place.

Rightsraptor · 04/08/2025 23:31

DurinsBane · 04/08/2025 22:36

It may not be appropriate, but it doesn’t mean anyone was perving

Yeah, he was just being friendly and helpful. Of course he was.

AMiddleClassWomanOfACertainAge · 04/08/2025 23:43

What was that saying about good men stay out (of lingerie departments) so bad men stand out
Walking red flag

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