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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
BunfightBetty · 03/06/2025 22:55

Smell that? That's the stench of desperation to be relevant once again. Poor Kate.

HRTQueen · 03/06/2025 22:59

I absolutely agree with Kate

well this line from her song

Men with power can do what they want

well done Kate

NameChangedOfc · 03/06/2025 23:00

nauticant · 03/06/2025 20:45

Just in case you want to see the lyrics to Kate Nash's now song:
:
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katenash/germ.html

Oh dear, how embarrassing...

GreenFriedTomato · 03/06/2025 23:13

Here's an acronym for you.
Tiresome, Woke, Insufferable, Transmaiden

NewBinBag · 03/06/2025 23:22

GreenFriedTomato · 03/06/2025 23:13

Here's an acronym for you.
Tiresome, Woke, Insufferable, Transmaiden

😂 I do miss the laugh reaction.

Pleasantsort · 03/06/2025 23:24

@IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta wait! There was a Horrible Histories movie ? How did I miss that ?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/06/2025 23:26

NewBinBag · 03/06/2025 23:22

😂 I do miss the laugh reaction.

Me too. I'd have used it all over this thread - so many funny comments. 😂

Andoutcomethewolves · 03/06/2025 23:28

JasmineAllen · 03/06/2025 22:45

'Born in the wrong body' is just idiocy. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it just is.

No one is born in the wrong body. You are born in the body you have. That's it. If it's a healthy body then you should count uouf blessings.

Would you tell someone with MS they've been born in the wrong body, or a teenager with leukaemia, or someone who wants to be an olympian but can't make it? And if not, why not.

Maybe I've been born in the wrong body because I'd love to be really good at maths, but in reality I'm pretty bad at maths, although I pretend I'm quite good sometimes 😄

If you read the thread I've already clarified what I meant and corrected myself

PermanentTemporary · 03/06/2025 23:31

Not sure what a thread attacking a woman who's headlining at Glastonbury with her own creative work is doing in the Feminism Chat board. I never thought that being GC was about insisting that everybody believes and says the same thing, and certainly not about jeering at other women.

Pleasantsort · 03/06/2025 23:43

@PermanentTemporary If Kate was playing Glastonbury with her beliefs on gender ideology and refrained from the she slagging off other women who wish to keep single sex spaces. (You know- the law!) maybe I could respect her. Do honestly think Kate could play Glasto and be openly gender critical? Let me tell you this, she could not unless she wants a legal fight or massive hassle in her life.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 03/06/2025 23:50

Pleasantsort · 03/06/2025 23:24

@IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta wait! There was a Horrible Histories movie ? How did I miss that ?

Yep, it was released in 2019 - the full title was Horrible Histories: The Movie - Rotten Romans.

letitgo23 · 03/06/2025 23:55

Not heard the song but fairly sure it will sound like a bandwagon being jumped on....whatever it is though it is certainly not feminist as woman to use whatever platform you have to speak down to any women who disagree with in the nauseating and wholly arrogant way these lyrics do

RattlingTin · 03/06/2025 23:59

PermanentTemporary · 03/06/2025 23:31

Not sure what a thread attacking a woman who's headlining at Glastonbury with her own creative work is doing in the Feminism Chat board. I never thought that being GC was about insisting that everybody believes and says the same thing, and certainly not about jeering at other women.

She’s not “headlining Glastonbury” 😂
Shes one of the headliners on the Leftfield stage - which is Billy Bragg’s stage - music and chat with all his mates (Ash Sarkar etc 🥱)
it used to be a good and busy stage… but there are so many stages at Glastonbury now that it doesn’t usually draw big crowds. There are loads of better acts on at the same time as her set.

PermanentTemporary · 04/06/2025 00:24

It's a fairly major achievement to be 'only' headlining a small stage at one of the most famous festivals in the world. Or to be rated as a performer by Billy Bragg.

I dont think she's wrong that plenty of voices on the GC side aren't radical or feminist. Nor would they claim to be.

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 04/06/2025 00:42

KN has written a song referring to GC feminists as GERMs. It’s hardly peak feminism itself.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 04/06/2025 03:58

Dick panderer.

Next!

BlueEyedBogWitch · 04/06/2025 04:00

PermanentTemporary · 03/06/2025 23:31

Not sure what a thread attacking a woman who's headlining at Glastonbury with her own creative work is doing in the Feminism Chat board. I never thought that being GC was about insisting that everybody believes and says the same thing, and certainly not about jeering at other women.

Calling women ‘germs’ is pretty offensive though, isn’t it?

So, y’know…hard to give a fuck about her stupid ‘creative endeavours’ when she’s using them to insult women.

LumpyMashedPotato · 04/06/2025 04:07

nauticant · 03/06/2025 20:45

Just in case you want to see the lyrics to Kate Nash's now song:
:
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katenash/germ.html

Just Wow.

Kate is clearly desperate for fame/ relevance/ cash off on my Christmas

SpidersAreShitheads · 04/06/2025 04:50

I really do try to be even-handed and try to understand that the other side might genuinely believe they’re right and we are wrong.

There has to be space for an exchange of views or else we’re as bad as they are with their No Debate bullshit.

But it’s REALLY hard to be fair and objective reading the absolute fucking drivel in Kate Nash’s lyrics.

She’s effectively trying to deny the experience of other women and mocking those with GC views.

She’s cherry-picking statistics - I see she’s decided not to mention the number of trans prisoners who commit sexual crimes against women and/or children. IIRC it was around 70%. Weirdly though, she doesn’t mention that in her song.

She’s very keen to point out there’s no issue with boxing rings or toilets, and she scolds us all by holding the same view as Trump, berating us for bringing down society.

The issue isn’t that she’s in the TWAW camp - it’s that she’s proactively attacking women who dare to hold GC views. Silencing them, mocking them, continuing to add to the pile-on that we’ve had to endure for years for daring to assert our right to safety.

This isn’t about having a go at Kate because she wants to champion trans rights. That’s up to her. She could do that without trampling on the many brave women who are standing up for their rights and safety. There was no need to perpetuate smear tactics or to suggest we’re all Trump fangirls. Many (most?) of us detest the orange toddler.

This is a cheap attempt at getting approval by throwing women under the bus yet again.

Fuck you Kate.

Pleasantsort · 04/06/2025 05:19

@PermanentTemporary I'm in a band and consider myself gender critical and a feminist. I certainly don't rate Billy Bragg as a person or a performer nor do I rate him as a socialist - the 60 + man who likes to have his photo taken with young female lap dancers . How progressive ! As for Kate Nash - she never bothers about working class women in prison , the majority who have been physically, emotionally or sexually abused who would have to share facillities with men who male sex offenders if Trans women were allowed self ID which she wants ? She really hasn't thought it through has she or she doesn't give a tosh does she as long as Kate gets a gig at Glasto with bloody stupid Billy Bragg.

Andoutcomethewolves · 04/06/2025 05:52

I'm honestly very disappointed at Billy Bragg - I've followed him on social media for years and seen him live a few times - he always seemed pretty sound and left wing. But now he just seems like a misogynistic knobber

BreatheAndFocus · 04/06/2025 06:52

Crap song and a cringeworthy attempt at being down with the yoof. Pathetic, Kate! Get some self respect - and some music skills!

Custark · 04/06/2025 06:53

Kate Nash is irrelevant and on the strength of that article, incredibly childish. She really thinks she is a feminist, calling other women GERMs?

MintChocCat · 04/06/2025 06:55

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/06/2025 23:26

Me too. I'd have used it all over this thread - so many funny comments. 😂

😂

Coatsoff42 · 04/06/2025 07:29

Andoutcomethewolves · 03/06/2025 21:08

I didn't realise Kate Nash had done anything since Foundations! Is she just trying to stay relevant?

The trans stuff is just getting boring now. I have one trans woman friend who you would never ever think was born a bloke and is just quietly living her life as a woman - no issues there. Then people like my neighbour who assumes anyone who's lesbian or bi owes him sex (and yes he's very clearly a him despite the dress) and is a sexual predator. Two very different categories of people and I don't think you can group them together. I will never see my neighbour as a woman. My friend I do and would have no problem sharing a bathroom etc with her (not sports etc but she doesn't intrude on women's stuff like that)

Kate Nash is just getting on the bandwagon

My brother is really nice too. I’ve known him all his life and he’s really quiet and just lives his life, he’s really kind and funny. I’m happy to share a changing room with him, but I don’t think other women should.