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SidewaysOtter · 03/04/2025 16:16

Who was it that said quietly "Oh GOD" before the mics were cut? Grin

(Shades of the Garden Court clerk muttering "FUCKING 'ELL" when leaving for a break...)

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:17

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:15

Is a dogwhistle a dogwhistle?

And then, what if it's nebulous?

OhBuggerandArse · 03/04/2025 16:17

Is the judge insisting on a break because he/she just can't stand listening to this slippery bollocks any more?!

GCAcademic · 03/04/2025 16:20

Thank you all for the live updates. For how many days does the ET last?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2025 16:21

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:15

Is a dogwhistle a dogwhistle?

Yes, I made this point earlier in the thread Smile

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:22

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2025 16:21

Yes, I made this point earlier in the thread Smile

Sorry. Slow to the party.

SidewaysOtter · 03/04/2025 16:23

GCAcademic · 03/04/2025 16:20

Thank you all for the live updates. For how many days does the ET last?

Just tomorrow I think.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2025 16:24

There was supposed to be a smiley emoji, apologies @Mmmnotsurebut it didn’t post, wasn’t having a pop at you

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2025 16:25

Trying with an iPhone emoji 😂

Appalonia · 03/04/2025 16:25

WHY did they have a break then? Bizarre.

Appalonia · 03/04/2025 16:25

Judge sounds v tetchy.

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:25

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2025 16:24

There was supposed to be a smiley emoji, apologies @Mmmnotsurebut it didn’t post, wasn’t having a pop at you

@Ereshkigalangcleg
I didn't take it as a pop. Anyone with langcleg in their name is a good 'un.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 03/04/2025 16:28

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:15

Is a dogwhistle a dogwhistle?

It would be transphobic to assume a dogwhistle is a dogwhistle as it might identify as a catwhistle and the catdogwhistle owes nobody social or medical transition as they're perfectly entitled to autonomy over their whistleselves and if you call a dogwhistle out when it identifies as a catwhistle then you're a bigot

Cailleach1 · 03/04/2025 16:28

Judge needs a break when told they’re bringing up dog whistles again.

There is a bit of a trend here with many of these bros who campaign for the men who say they are women. Then tumble weed, or ‘ah well, nasty bad women not kowtowing to men’s notions’ response to women being attacked. Men who say they wouldn’t personally advocate that, but one can’t help but get the feeling (rightly or wrongly) they aren’t too bothered about women being brought down a peg or two if they have such hifalutin’ notions of their sex deserving, and having full human rights.

Just my own personal take on these men.

Appalonia · 03/04/2025 16:32

Pp who are extremely aggressive on social media? Like TRAs for example...?

KnottyAuty · 03/04/2025 16:32

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:15

Is a dogwhistle a dogwhistle?

I was wondering that too

borntobequiet · 03/04/2025 16:35

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 03/04/2025 16:28

It would be transphobic to assume a dogwhistle is a dogwhistle as it might identify as a catwhistle and the catdogwhistle owes nobody social or medical transition as they're perfectly entitled to autonomy over their whistleselves and if you call a dogwhistle out when it identifies as a catwhistle then you're a bigot

It might even identify as a klaxon, you never know.
Thanks to all for the commentary on this thread.

Appalonia · 03/04/2025 16:37

I wish he'd give examples of this so called ' online hate' he keeps mentioning.

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:38

He has such sympathy for people who are attacked online, etc (but not women - no sympathy for them it seems).

He is very smug. And entitled.

At least he has had to go through life being called Buttars.

NebulousCatWhistler · 03/04/2025 16:39

Who summoned a catwhistler?Grin

I saw AHF in person when it was (finally) shown at Edinburgh, I've just re-watched it. It's better than I remembered! At the time I thoght "yeah but we know this". Now I can appreciate it's a sharp, well evidenced and well argued documentary.

My fave AHF quote is Lucy Masoud. Stonewall had arranged a meeting about her with her then-employers the London Fire Brigade. "What Stonewall didn't know is by the time the meeting took place I'd left the London Fire Brigade a week before for completely unrelated reasons.

I'd left and become a barrister."

That is just so classy. Anway. As you were.

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:43

NC Either you got that date from a doc that hasn't been disclosed, or you made it up.
GB Didn't make it up.
NC Did you not read your statement carefully before this hearing and make sure what was in it was true?
GB Thought I had, but this obviously slipped through the process.

[Again, as with not rereading their policy, incompetent/lazy/self-satisfied man.]

And then back to Katy Montgomerie and - yes - dog whistles again.

nauticant · 03/04/2025 16:43

NC seems to be going to the point that the way you recognise a "dogwhistle" is by spotting that it's being said by a wrong-thinker.

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:44

The judge must be wondering if she is at an employment tribunal, or Crufts.

MarieDeGournay · 03/04/2025 16:44

Mmmnotsure · 03/04/2025 16:15

Is a dogwhistle a dogwhistle?

'A dogwhistle by any other name would sounds as inaudible to anybody except dogs', as I think Shakespeare said..

I'm pretty sure though that Gertrude Stein said
'a dogwhistle is a dogwhistle is a dogwhistle'.
Grin

nauticant · 03/04/2025 16:45

Appalonia · 03/04/2025 16:37

I wish he'd give examples of this so called ' online hate' he keeps mentioning.

We nearly got there today. Along with the nature of the danger that trans people were in when they were on the campus, that nest of terrible transphobia.

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